Michael wrote:Defensive gun uses occur in the hundreds of thousands to millions of times per year in the US
No they don't. Prove it.
Michael wrote:Defensive gun uses occur in the hundreds of thousands to millions of times per year in the US
oragami_itto wrote:Michael wrote:Defensive gun uses occur in the hundreds of thousands to millions of times per year in the US
No they don't. Prove it.
grzegorz wrote:What a twisted individual!
Thanks for sharing.
Looks like most of his were black.
May they all rest in peace.
Authorities have now named the 9 deceased victims. In addition to Megan Betts, they are Lois Oglesby, black female, 27; Saeed Saleh, 38, black male; Logan Turner, white male, 30; Nicholas P. Cumer, white male, 25; Thomas J. McNichols, black male, 25; Beatrice N. Warren-Curtis, black female, 36; Monica E. Brickhouse, black female, 39; and Derrick R. Fudge, black male, 57. You can read tributes to the victims here. Heavy has included the victims’ race because that is how the police gave the information out in a press release and press
Peacedog wrote:Defensive gun uses in the US are at least in the range of 500,000 per year and quite possibly substantially more according to the Center for Disease Control (CDC).
We don't know the exact number for a variety of reasons. Not the least of which is the Obama administration shut down one of the offices researching the issue after the CDC came to conclusions the administration didn't like.
Forbes has a link regarding at least one of the studies here:https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/#4f90e8aa299a
Defensive Use of Guns
Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a). Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010). On the other hand, some scholars point to a radically lower estimate of only 108,000 annual defensive uses based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (Cook et al., 1997). The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field. The estimate of 3 million defensive uses per year is based on an extrapolation from a small number of responses taken from more than 19 national surveys. The former estimate of 108,000 is difficult to interpret because respondents were not asked specifically about defensive gun use.
Criminal shows up and starts engaging in criminal behavior. Armed civilian displays a firearm. Criminal ceases criminal behavior and leaves.
If you remove the murders from the inner city of Detroit, Baltimore, Houston, LA, New Orleans and NYC the US actually has a murder rate far below that of Western Europe. Less than 10% of the US lives in an urban inner city environment. So, does the US have murder problem or an inner city crime problem?
On a practical basis, I've never seen a mass killing in a place where the public was armed.
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