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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby Steve James on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:18 am

It does when different countries are used for comparison to the US and the question is posed as to what is different.


:) Anybody who's been there think France and England aren't multicultural?
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Anyway, to get things straight. This is the "multiculturalism" to which Sowell and the moderator referred to specifically. Look it up.

multiculturalism definition: The view that the various cultures in a society merit equal respect and scholarly interest. It became a significant force in American society in the 1970s and 1980s as African-Americans, Latinos, and other ethnic groups explored their own history.


And, as I said, for many then and today, it's a bad thing ... for various reasons. Btw, the theory that "cultural conflict" leads to increased crime goes back to the 1930s America, and was often applied to explain why European immigrants were often involved in crime. You remember the White Hand, Black Hand, Cosa Nostra, Westies, etc., etc.

Applying the concept to Black people is stupid because many of them have been American and part of American culture longer than many of their critics who came on boats in the early 1900s and after WW2. To the contemporary bigot, however, multiculturalism is a threat. It's "bad." Of course, it is why that guy Brevik in Norway went on his proud killing spree.

In fact, it can be noted that these guys aren't foes of multiculturalism. Rather, they want the attention that is being directed at others. He is "‘…not an implacable foe of multiculturalism, he is a product of it. He is multiculturalism’s monster, where his true aim is to win recognition of his identity alongside all those other identities that are fawned over in modern Europe.’

- See more at: http://www.irishleftreview.org/2012/04/ ... AVwaL.dpuf"

It's a rather better explanation of why these guys act out against their own people. If they prefer, they might argue that multiculturalism drives "some" people insane. ;)
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby grzegorz on Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:37 am

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Re: Shooting of the Week

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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby Steve James on Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:00 am

warriorprincess wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/28/gunman-named-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-attack


Hey, maybe he was a passionately pro-life?
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby warriorprincess on Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:42 pm

Hey, maybe he was a passionately pro-life?[/quote]

Maybe he was; Does that make it ok? is it ever right to force your passionate beliefs on others?
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby grzegorz on Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:17 pm

Four cops were injured and one was killed (last I heard anyway). I wonder if the police officer's union is going to blame the pro-life movement for encouraging voilence against the police as they did with the black lives movement. I suppose Quentin Tarantino is a much easier target.
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby Steve James on Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:06 pm

warriorprincess wrote:Hey, maybe he was a passionately pro-life?


Maybe he was; Does that make it ok? is it ever right to force your passionate beliefs on others?
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It was sarcasm. I feel as you do.
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby warriorprincess on Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:45 am

Sarcasm font needed. Thanks Steve, I've just heard so much claptrap from men who feel they're entitled to make decisions for women that my radar is a but skewed.
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby klonk on Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:08 pm

The cop who got killed in Colorado Springs was a pro-life church pastor on weekends. Makes you think.

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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby Steve James on Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:59 pm

Well, it makes me think there's so many differences among "pro-lifers" that the term is totally useless. I am pro-life, and against abortion and the death penalty. I also favor individual rights. That means I believe that the individual woman has the right to make that decision, and I wouldn't kill anyone in a church or clinic.

Yes, that elder was a sacrifice because he was acting to save lives, not take them. Kudos to him, not to any movement or ideology.
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby grzegorz on Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:39 pm

klonk wrote:The cop who got killed in Colorado Springs was a pro-life church pastor on weekends. Makes you think.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleani ... oting.html


Makes me think that shooting sprees kill everyone.

The other two victims were an Iraq war veteran and a mother of two both their accompanying friends.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/slain-civilian ... d=35478788
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby Steve James on Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:59 am

klonk wrote:The cop who got killed in Colorado Springs was a pro-life church pastor on weekends. Makes you think.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleani ... oting.html



The other lives that were taken, one a MOTHER, also desrve our thoughts.
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby grzegorz on Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:38 am

All three of the victims had two children each.
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby Steve James on Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:45 am

I just think it's ironic that people who claim to be pro-life can be willing to kill mothers and children.
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Re: Shooting of the Week

Postby Michael on Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:15 am

Gun rights + abortion rights + religious rights should not equal =/= shooting people.

Seems weird that so many Americans go abroad to adopt babies while so many get aborted. There ought to be some moderating effect here, maybe work in a local adoption program providing alternative to abortion instead of picking up a rifle?
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