Shooting of the Week

[Steve James]

So, White Christian guys going into churches and schools and shooting up White Christian people is the fault of multiculturalism? Though, it does sound like things "terrorists" do. No?

Was America multicultural before they came? It's almost Columbus Day, so the question is relevant. Anyway, not sure what it has to do with gun control, since we know who had the guns

One thing for sure, a "gun culture" isn't better than a multiculture. I'd be happy to discuss the specifics of Sowell's arguments with you, or anyone actually, but it's boring to listen to Sowell or Armstrong, Caine, Carson, etc.

Oh well, just for shits --as if these racially-based dogwhistle arguments are worthy-- I'll address the first issue raised. I presume the moderator is referring to "ebonics." Well, here's the thing. Though it's true that what actual linguists call "African American Vernacular English" began to receive more serious study in the 70s, the moderator neglects to mention that this corresponded with rising interest in all the varieties of English. That certainly includes Jamaican creole, jah mon, but also the various ways English is spoken in the English world. Fyi, I'd recommend this old series that tells the story of English. If you manage to get toward the end of the series, you'll get a better idea of why different varieties (not dialects) exist and why they're significant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FtSUPAM-uA

Sowell's argument comes out of the mistaken belief that there is a Standard English that is universal. Ha, we don't speak English, anyway. We speak and write "American English." I would say "American" like Sarah Palin. The only problem is that "Mexican" is just as American. North American, to be precise.

Which brings up the second problem; a fair portion of the people who might agree with Sowell about "ebonics" have a substandard command of written English. So, their complaints are a joke. Moreover, the terms like "ebonics" are made up by racialists. After all, I'm sure you don't think you speak White English or have a dialect. Besides, language is only a means of communication. It is fine as long as it works. Hill people in the Appalachians, denizens of the New Orleans Latin Quarter, brothers from Compton, and Jewish people from Brooklyn all have their own ways of speech. And all of them work just fine. It ain't necessary to have a PhD to see that with ones own eyes.

You've probably stopped reading, but for those interested, there were plenty of Italian and German immigrants in my neighborhood when I was growing up. To a person, they did not want to speak like their first generation parents or grandparents. They'd say that their parents spoke "broken" English, and it embarrassed them. Imagine that, being embarrassed by one's parents. Tsk, tsk. That was the 50s and 60s, long before "multiculturalism." Anyway, if you watch the SoE series, you'll see why English is already multicultural. But, I realize that Multicultural and multiculturalism are just code words for "bad" and no thought or analysis is required, offered or expected --just chuckles, serious looks and eye winks.

[Steve James]

The priest wasn't happy the 8-year-old was rooting for the Cowboys

A New Jersey priest has been arrested for child endangerment and aggravated assault after pointing a musket at an 8-year-old child.

The reason for the threat? The priest, a New York Giants fan, wasn’t too happy that the boy was rooting for the Dallas Cowboys in a game later that day.

Kevin Carter, who had been with St. Margaret of Cortona Roman Catholic Church for two years, was arrested Friday. Carter apparently approached the boy just before Mass services at church on September 13 and asked to see him in one of the church’s rectory rooms. Prosecutors say the boy did so; once in the room, Carter pushed the boy against a wall, whipped out a musket, and pointed it at the child.

“As he raised his weapon and pointed it at the boy, he said, ‘I’m going to shoot you,'” John Molinelli, Bergen Country Prosecutor, told NBC 4 New York.

The child was not hurt.

http://time.com/4060599/priest-child-musket/

[Steve James]

The result of multiculturalism, or the result of a specific culture?

WHITE PINE, Tenn. — An 11-year-old boy has been charged with murder after he killed his 8-year-old neighbor, police said, and witnesses say it was because the girl wouldn't let him see her puppy.

Deputies were called to the neighborhood in White Pine, about 40 miles east of Knoxville, on Saturday night. The boy shot the girl from inside his home with his father's 12-gauge shotgun, said Jefferson County Sheriff Bud McCoig.

Latasha Dyer told WATE-TV (http://bit.ly/1KWbDPA) her daughter was playing outside when the next-door neighbor asked to see the puppy. McKayla told the boy "no," and he shot her, Dyer said. A neighbor, Misty Edwards, said her niece was playing with the girl and saw what happened.

"She was a precious little girl. She was a mommy's girl. No matter how bad of a mood you were in she could always make you smile," Dyer told the station. "I want her back in my arms."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boy-11 ... cpage=true

Stuff happens ... right? I have daughters and grand-daughters, so I can't think that way. I must be mental because of multiculturalism.

[windwalker]

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

[Steve James]

Vulgar Pride of Intellectuals

like Thomas Sowell

He received a Bachelor's degree, graduating magna cum laude[3] from Harvard University in 1958 and a Master's degree from Columbia University in 1959. In 1968, he earned his Doctorate in Economics from the University of Chicago.

Sowell has served on the faculties of several universities, including Cornell University and University of California, Los Angeles. He has also worked for think tanks such as the Urban Institute.

[windwalker]

pointless

[windwalker]

Was America multicultural before they came? It's almost Columbus Day, so the question is relevant.

before who came?

The researchers believe Luzia was part of a people, referred to as "Paleoamericans," who migrated into the Americas—possibly even by boat—long before the Mongoloid people. These Paleoamericans may later have been wiped out by or interbred with Mongoloids invading from the north.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... skull.html

wiped out, invading ect,,, who is it that your referring to, who is the "they"

[Steve James]

Watch the video. But, it's silly to just post a 15 minute video of someone else without stating your view straight up. Your experience in HI and Korea are irrelevant to what Sowell is saying. When you can explain how multiculturalism is affecting anything in your own words, then it'll be worth arguing. Otherwise, it gets to this same point where you get all indignant and say that you can't discuss these things. You haven't tried. You just post videos with the quips about "the doctor is in." I for one won't bother to argue with somebody on youtube videos.

Anyway, I never said anything about your experience until now, and my point about "ebonics" --a name I despise-- was that it emerged at the same time people started giving more respect to other varieties of English. And, the reason was that --in terms of human communication-- there was no reason to place one variety over another, and that being told one's language was inferior implied that the speakers were inferior. Or, vice versa, if one thought that one's language was superior, one probably believed that one was superior. In England (real English), it was called the "U non-U" issue. You could google it, but you probably have experience with it already.

So, ultimately, "AAVE" is just another variety of American English. Calling it ebonics is silly to me. And, anyone who follows the Dictionary of American Regional English (pardon the intellectual name) knows, Black people in New Orleans, or Atlanta, or Brooklyn, sound more like their White neighbors than Blacks in other places --least of all Africa, where if the theory held they should all be speaking in "duh instead of the" and "dey instead of they". Like I said, it don't take a PhD to understand this stuff, but if a person doesn't try to understand, he'll fall for any old okey doke.

Not to f-in put too fine a point on it, though. I know lots of Black people. Maybe even as many as you, windy. None of them speak ebonics. I just came back from a wedding in Florida, and they thought I talked funny. But, they sounded to me like Texans, Iowans and Georgians to me. Go figure.

[Steve James]

before who came?

Before Europeans. Was it that hard? Oh, that paleoAmerican bs has been debunked long time. But, whoever they were, they turned into Indians who didn't speak English, French, Dutch or even Spanish.

And, if they came from Europe, they got there from Africa, so there.

Luzia Woman (Portuguese pronunciation: [luˈzi.ɐ]) is the name for an Upper Paleolithic period skeleton of a Paleo-Indian woman who was found in a cave in Brazil. Some archaeologists believe the young woman may have been part of the first wave of immigrants to South America. Nicknamed Luzia (her name pays homage to the famous African fossil "Lucy", who lived 3.2 million years ago), the 11,500-year-old skeleton was found in Lapa Vermelha, Brazil, in 1975 by archaeologist Annette Laming-Emperaire.[1]

"America" multicultural for 12,000 years.

[wiesiek]

slow down guys,
multikulti has nothing to do with shithead with the gun,
I mean - it can be Muslim , Christian or atheist , faith doesn`t matter.
Child shooting - here we have Americans gun culture - Instead keepin` guns locked far away from children some /again/ shitheads teaching them how to shoot , actually...
anyway,
it is always much harder to engage in H2H combat than shot from the distance,
and
much safer for both parties

[Steve James]

multikulti has nothing to do with shithead with the gun,

You're right. No clue why it was brought up ... well, actually, I know why

[windwalker]

slow down guys,
multikulti has nothing to do with shithead with the gun,
I mean - it can be Muslim , Christian or atheist , faith doesn`t matter.
Child shooting - here we have Americans gun culture - Instead keepin` guns locked far away from children some /again/ shitheads teaching them how to shoot , actually...
anyway,
it is always much harder to engage in H2H combat than shot from the distance,
and
much safer for both parties

It does when different countries are used for comparison to the US and the question is posed as to what is different.
As its been noted other countries with high rates of gun owner ship they dont have the same problems.
Countries with low gun owner ship are not necessarily less violent.

The shitheads with a guns often tend to identify with causes lager then themselves, not understanding that
the causes they take up are being supported by cultures that in the end may be also against them. They become a tool
of something they really dont understand.

[wiesiek]

then,
you cannot blame them, like you are not sue a harmer used for murder ...
culture in such case, is just cover for brainless scull

Ammer-ku is of course bigger cultures cauldron then Europe/Poland
an has tradition of the sheriffs with colts...
but
terrorist is not not one religion/nation/culture priest.
It is real multikulti shithead moron , which is used, or itself is using ideology, like paper, to cover his shit and/or lack of the brain.

[windwalker]

then,
you cannot blame them, like you are not sue a harmer used for murder ...
culture in such case, is just cover for brainless scull

Ammer-ku is of course bigger cultures cauldron then Europe/Poland
an has tradition of the sheriffs with colts...
but
terrorist is not not one religion/nation/culture priest.
It is real multikulti shithead moron , which is used, or itself is using ideology, like paper, to cover his shit and/or lack of the brain.

some are pretty smart and have brains.
when is terrorist not a terrorist

The U.S. government declined requests from survivors and family members of the slain to categorize the Fort Hood shooting as an act of terrorism, or motivated by militant Islamic religious convictions.[14] In November 2011, a group of survivors and family members filed a lawsuit against the government for negligence in preventing the attack, and to force the government to classify the shootings as terrorism.

The Pentagon argued that charging Hasan with terrorism was not possible within the military justice system and that such action could harm the military prosecutors' ability to sustain a guilty verdict against Hasan.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting