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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Michael on Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:57 pm

This completely contradicts your premise that Trump is different.

He's the same on Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Yemen, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Niger, Mali, Somalia and wherever we are currently waging war.

He's slightly different on Syria because he bombed them twice with little effect, but then reduced troops.

He's different on NATO and Russia in some ways that I mentioned above.

Maybe Trump actually cares that Venezuela is socialist, NK is communist and China has a unique hybrid. He probably thinks he cares, who knows. However, I don't think anyone's type of govt actually matters to US foreign policy. What matters is if you do things our way or you get Gaddafi'd. Since WW2, only a few countries like Israel, Russia, China and maybe India have resisted US hegemony.
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby grzegorz on Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:42 pm

I don't see peace with Putin. What I see is an employee honoring his employer.
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Michael on Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:03 pm

I'm sure you're right and that after a few more years, Mr. Cohen will remember that he saw Putin handing Trump a watermelon full of microfiche in Prague and the impeachment will commence.

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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby grzegorz on Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:38 pm

Ever since Trump's casino bankruptcy his money has come from the Russians.

Yeah, not as sexy as Alex Jones saying cell towers are influencing us but that is the truth

To me the real conspiracies are right in front of us, US putting sanctions on small countries destroying their economy and having to invade to save them, no pensions for American workers and wondering why seniors are getting addicted to opioids, charging the price of house for college education.
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby grzegorz on Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:42 pm

From Trump himself in 2008.

Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.


What are your sources more memes, general generals or, a degree from Trump university?

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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby grzegorz on Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:58 pm

'Kim and his evil regime are responsible for the death of our son', Otto Warmbier's parents say


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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Michael on Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:03 pm

My source is Mueller has no evidence after two years, and both the House and Senate committees explicitly say no evidence of collusion or any other crime. Two years.

What is your source for Trump's money coming from Russians? The sourceless quote you gave? Yeah, well why hasn't impeachment begun? The Dems control the House, they can do it. Call Nancy now. Follow Lara Loomer to her house, haha. Did you see that?

I'm sure Mueller and the Congress also missed this evidence of yours about Trump's money coming from Russia, so after you tell me I'll be on the phone to the FBI immediately. Or maybe you should get off RSF for a scooch and call them now ;D

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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby grzegorz on Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:12 pm

North Korea is claiming that they were not demanding that all sanctions need to be removed.
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Michael on Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:15 pm

And we canceled the war games where we practice nukular bombing their country. Sounds like "peace" to me, lol.
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby grzegorz on Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:41 pm

Yes, we did.

My point is it's going to be a minute to figure out what really happened.

I always knew that Trump would fail but I want to know what really went down. There's no way Kim is going to surrender his nukes to the US.
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby grzegorz on Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:51 pm

What gives?

Was Trump expecting an unconditional surrender?

But North Korea challenged that account, insisting it had asked only for partial sanctions relief in exchange for shutting down its main nuclear complex. Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho commented on the talks during an abruptly scheduled middle-of-the-night news conference after Trump was in the air.


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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Steve James on Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:30 pm

He's the same on Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Yemen, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Niger, Mali, Somalia and wherever we are currently waging war.

He's slightly different on Syria because he bombed them twice with little effect, but then reduced troops.


Um, he sent troops to Syria; then said he was pulling them all out; but didn't --which was smart. But, we're waging war there too. I don't see any indication of peace anywhere in the areas you mentioned. It's good that there may be an end to conflict on the Korean peninsula. Afa war mongering, Trump is only increasing the military portion of the budget. When he starts reducing that budget, that will make him different.

Why the collapse of a historic nuclear treaty could lead to a Cold War-like arms race

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-03/ ... 5KojxQKuOQ
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Steve James on Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:55 am

Satellite images show North Korea rebuilding rocket launch site it had pledged to dismantle

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/0 ... s-tougher/
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Steve James on Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:10 pm

Re: US military policy and war mongering in the previous administration.

In the latest step toward rolling back Obama-era rules for targeted killings, President Donald Trump will no longer require U.S. intelligence officials to publicly disclose the numbers of people killed in drone strikes and other attacks on terrorist targets outside of war zones.

Trump ended the reporting requirement by signing an executive order Wednesday. The move had been expected since the administration last year failed to release an annual accounting of civilian and enemy casualties required under an order signed in 2016 by then-President Barack Obama.

The order signed by Trump revokes a specific requirement that the administration release an unclassified summary of "the number of strikes undertaken by the United States Government against terrorist targets outside areas of active hostilities, as well as assessments of combatant and non combatant deaths resulting from those strikes, among other information."

President Obama dramatically expanded the use of targeted strikes with drones against al Qaeda and later ISIS targets. He also sought to put in place a set of rules designed to promote accountability and encourage policy-makers to minimize civilian casualties. Critics said those rules placed unwarranted constraints on counter terrorism operatives.

Among the rules was a requirement that there be a "near certainty" of no civilian casualties before the CIA launched a strike. That rule did not apply in war zones, where the standard is less strict. It’s unclear whether that rule remains in place.


I wish the writer was better at using indirect pronouns, but my point is really about the fact that the number of civilian and military deaths don't have to be publicly reported. Yes, I know. It was Obama's idea to report drone strike casualties in the first place because he was criticized for using drones. But, last I heard, the US is planning to leave most of the "war zones" soon (aka Syria). So, outside of war zones means everywhere else, and by the CIA at that.

Secondly, if there were no more drone strikes, there wouldn't be any need to report them anyway. Therefore, we know that they are expected to be happening if they're not ongoing now. It'll be easy to say that there were no civilian casualties and that "many" enemies were killed. Um, I don't see this as somehow unusual US policy at all. It's back to the same old strategy, not something new and improved.

Anyway, ask me if I think it's important to report civilian casualties. My main reason would be that it makes people responsible, for their guilt or their indifference. That's another subject, though.
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Re: North Korea South Korea Sitting in a Tree

Postby Michael on Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:35 am

North Korea's mission in Madrid, Spain was attacked February 22. Staff were taken hostage for 4 hours, gagged, bound, and bagged while the place was ransacked and electronics stolen. Reported by Russia Today

CIA may be behind February attack on North Korean embassy in Spain – reports
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