China view of Trump

[grzegorz]

It is interesting how socialism is used to save Capitalism. Trump created a crisis, US farmers are paying the price and Trump bails them out with $12,000,000,000 in hopes that will save them. But it won't end the crisis and the crisis will deepen, Trump and others will still have their products made in China, the debt snd deficit will increase and somehow Trump is a master....of what? Because of a few random comments by people meeting a foreigner in Beijing?

Sorry, I don't buy it. Trump is a fool and the Chinese know it. Have a few beers with those Chinese, get past the getting to know you/what can you do for me stage and the truth will set you free. Or you can always buy a Trump hat made in China and realize that the whole thing is a scam. Trump has not done anything legislatively on China only put on tariffs through executive order. Yet of course did nothing to stopn ZTE from spying on Americans.

[Steve James]

Yeah, too many jobs lost ... in China.

But, no worries, just wait for the pages of links showing how that Chinese employment is good for the US. The problem is that two years ago, it was called globalism; now, it's maga. Oh well, it's just like the opinions about state run media.

[grzegorz]

Good for you Wind on installing those. The difference is in China the government backs the solar panel industry to create jobs for millions of Chinese whereas Trump can't even figure out if climate change even exists. So yes, the Chinese can basically give away panels to create jobs. Amazon and Wlamart do the same thing to creat a customer base and crush the competition. If Trump were a master tactician he would invest 12 billion in solar and then start a trade war with China. But no, he's not a master of anything and we will all pay

[windwalker]

It is interesting how socialism is used to save Capitalism. Trump created a crisis, US farmers are paying the price and Trump bails them out with $12,000,000,000 in hopes that will save them. But it won't end the crisis and the crisis will deepen, Trump and others will still have their products made in China, the debt snd deficit will increase and somehow Trump is a master....of what? Because of a few random comments by people meeting a foreigner in Beijing?

Sorry, I don't buy it. Trump is a fool and the Chinese know it.

The guy who wrote the article

Mark Leonard, president of the European Council on Foreign Relations, writing in the Financial Times:
“The Chinese are wary of Donald Trump’s creative destruction”

The guy who wrote it is not a fan or supporter of trump
to his credit he did report what was said regardless of how he felt, even at that if you read the article its not neutral
its slanted against trump.

Have a few beers with those Chinese, get past the getting to know you/what can you do for me stage and the truth will set you free. Or you can always buy a Trump hat made in China and realize that the whole thing is a scam. Trump has not done anything legislatively on China only put on tariffs through executive order. Yet of course did nothing to stopn ZTE from spying on Americans.

ya I suppose I should even after having been training in China for months at a time for over a 10+ period and now living in Taiwan as a resident.

Maybe your right a few beers. I dont claim to speak for the Chinese or the Chinese people only for my self and those I interacted with.
Of those who talked about it their views varied...They do have their own take on some events which I respected and didn't press only noted.

[windwalker]

Good for you Wind on installing those. The difference is in China the government backs the solar panel industry to create jobs for millions of Chinese whereas Trump can't even figure out if climate change even exists. So yes, the Chinese can basically give away panels to create jobs.

Amazon and Wlamart do the same thing to creat a customer base and crush the competition. If Trump were a master tactician he would invest 12 billion in solar and then start a trade war with China. But no, he's not a master of anything and we will all pay

My writing sucks. maybe not so clear.

The company made solar cells, which are then put into panels. I worked on the machines used to cut ingots of silicon into wafers which would later become
the solar cells that most people see. The process itself is quite destructive to the environment where they have to mine the raw materials. Lots of waste material is also produced during the manufacturing process. No free rides with energy....whats called clean energy is not so clean when one looks into it.

Our company CaliSolar went out business just like Solandra,
they did have an interesting process and also went out of business.

Solar World in OR...now just produces the panels buying the cells, we put in most of the machines they used to make the cells,,,which about a yr or so after they stopped...Its quite amazing considering the cost and effort involved.

Market forces or what should be free market forces.

China made a decision early on to be the world supplier of green energy products.
Good move in one sense but considering what they did to the markets not sustainable in the long run
even for them.

[origami_itto]

Well at least we know what the government thinks of him.

Trump's trade 'extortion' won't work, China state media says
Andrew Galbraith, Michael Martina
6 MIN READ

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1KR096

SHANGHAI/BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese state media on Monday lambasted U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade policies in an unusually personal attack, and sought to reassure investors anxious about China’s economy as growth concerns battered its financial markets.

China’s strictly controlled news outlets have frequently rebuked the United States and the Trump administration as the trade conflict has escalated, but they have largely refrained from specifically targeting Trump.

The latest criticism from the overseas edition of the ruling Communist Party’s People’s Daily newspaper singled out Trump, saying he was starring in his own “street fighter-style deceitful drama of extortion and intimidation”.

Trump’s desire for others to play along with his drama is “wishful thinking”, a commentary on the paper’s front page said, arguing that the United States had escalated trade friction with China and turned international trade into a “zero-sum game”.

“Governing a country is not like doing business,” the paper said, adding that Trump’s actions imperiled the national credibility of the United States.

The heated dispute between the world’s two biggest economies has roiled financial markets including stocks, currencies and the global trade of commodities from soybeans to coal in recent months. Last month, the International Monetary Fund warned that escalating trade conflicts following U.S. tariff actions on its trading partners threaten to derail the global economic recovery.

The United States and China implemented tariffs on $34 billion worth of each other’s goods in July. Washington is expected to soon implement tariffs on an additional $16 billion of Chinese goods, which China has already said it will match immediately.

On Friday, China’s finance ministry unveiled new sets of additional tariffs on 5,207 goods imported from the United States worth $60 billion.

That move was in response to the Trump administration’s proposal of a 25-percent tariff on $200 billion worth of Chinese imports.

[grzegorz]

To be fair I am sure the Chinese see Trump as standing up against them. But if he did wish to isolate China he would have let TPP stand. I just think he is out of his league.

He went to "war" with the EU and in the end we basically have the same deal with the EU and he celebrates it as a victory.

As far as Trump working hard for Americans he is actually on vacation right now yet he said he would not have time for any of that.

[grzegorz]

Well at least we know what the government thinks of him.

Trump's trade 'extortion' won't work, China state media says
Andrew Galbraith, Michael Martina
6 MIN READ

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1KR096

SHANGHAI/BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese state media on Monday lambasted U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade policies in an unusually personal attack, and sought to reassure investors anxious about China’s economy as growth concerns battered its financial markets.

China’s strictly controlled news outlets have frequently rebuked the United States and the Trump administration as the trade conflict has escalated, but they have largely refrained from specifically targeting Trump.

The latest criticism from the overseas edition of the ruling Communist Party’s People’s Daily newspaper singled out Trump, saying he was starring in his own “street fighter-style deceitful drama of extortion and intimidation”.

Trump’s desire for others to play along with his drama is “wishful thinking”, a commentary on the paper’s front page said, arguing that the United States had escalated trade friction with China and turned international trade into a “zero-sum game”.

“Governing a country is not like doing business,” the paper said, adding that Trump’s actions imperiled the national credibility of the United States.

The heated dispute between the world’s two biggest economies has roiled financial markets including stocks, currencies and the global trade of commodities from soybeans to coal in recent months. Last month, the International Monetary Fund warned that escalating trade conflicts following U.S. tariff actions on its trading partners threaten to derail the global economic recovery.

The United States and China implemented tariffs on $34 billion worth of each other’s goods in July. Washington is expected to soon implement tariffs on an additional $16 billion of Chinese goods, which China has already said it will match immediately.

On Friday, China’s finance ministry unveiled new sets of additional tariffs on 5,207 goods imported from the United States worth $60 billion.

That move was in response to the Trump administration’s proposal of a 25-percent tariff on $200 billion worth of Chinese imports.

This would partially explain why the Chinese respect him. Because they know they are fed state runned propaganda so they are probably thinking Trump is doing something for the US as a polarity response.