The Saudi Embassy affair

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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby windwalker on Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:43 am

Interesting right

One difficulty when comparing countries' exports in this area is gaining access to data, with little information available after 2016.


Wonder why,,,maybe optics?

Which EU countries export arms to Saudi Arabia?

Top ten countries according to value of licences issued

Spain
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Belgium
Sweden
Croatia
Italy
Germany
France
United Kingdom


Source: Official Journal of the European Union, 27 March 2015 - http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ ... LL&from=EN

Categrories covered in data include: Smooth-bore weapons, ammunition and fuse setting devices, bombs, torpedoes, rockets, missiles, alerting and warning equipment, ground vehicles, chemical or biological toxic agents, ‘energetic materials,’ vessels of war, ‘aircraft,’ ‘lighter than air vehicles,’ electronic equipment, high velocity kinetic energy weapon systems, armoured or protective equipment, specialised equipment for military training, imaging or countermeasure equipment, forgings, castings and other unfinished products, miscellaneous equipment, production equipment, directed energy weapon systems, cryogenic and ‘superconductive’ equipment, ‘Software’ and 'Technology'.


https://www.euronews.com/2017/11/30/whi ... di-arabia-
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby Steve James on Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:51 am

It's hypocritical to claim to be Christian yet do everything counter to anything Jesus taught.
In the US, it's not hypocritical to put money above Christian principles because money is the real God. It's on the currency.
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby jimmy on Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:58 pm

an even more hilarious position would be to pretend that you are actually satanic and then be scrupulously ethical, humble, and loving-kind...



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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby Bao on Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:46 am

windwalker wrote:Understand what hypocracy is

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Swedes see themselves as very ethical and restrictive when it comes to giving human rights violators or dictators things that help them stay in power.


"the jobs issue is quite big. People care more about local jobs than about what we do in Saudi," he added.

Some 30,000 people are employed in the Swedish defence industry, many of them in towns where arms factories are the largest private sector employer."
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/peace-l ... oar-562866


All countries are more or less the same. Sweden's former Prime Minister Olof Palme who was shot to death 1986 was loved by many as well as hated. He was recognised as a great "Peacemaker", but still he sold weapons to different countries.

I didn't mean to comment "Americans", only political hypocrisy. But as you mention Swedes, yes Swedes are very nationalistic and self-confident and indeed believe they are a moral people living in one of the world's greatest countries. Also they close their eyes and ears when it comes to Swedish involvement in certain international things. Hypocrisy is just as big over here.

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BTW, worry for the post, I should stay out of politics. I have deleted it. Didn't mean to offend anyone or to attack. By having certain reactions, I am sad to see that some people took it personally. But in any case I won't blame anyone for being sensitive, if so it's all my own fault. I should know better.
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby grzegorz on Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:37 am

LOL!

So since someone has no argument and the GOP is clearly divided and the same Trump supporters would be whigging out if Obama took no action because he did business with the Saudis "this person" attacks Sweden.

Yeah, good luck with that. You lost any credibility you had long ago.

Funny how these Trump supporters who were always talking about Sharia law coming "here" are now supporters of Sharia law.

What Trump (& Brexit) shows me is that some people's "first world" lives are so miserable they actually believed a failed businessman and phony reality TV star would make their lives "great again."
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby grzegorz on Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:49 am

Bao wrote:BTW, worry for the post, I should stay out of politics. I have deleted it. Didn't mean to offend anyone or to attack. By having certain reactions, I am sad to see that some people took it personally. But in any case I won't blame anyone for being sensitive, if so it's all my own fault. I should know better.


I really wouldn't worry about it. We are all adults here and anyone who clicks this thread after reading the title has to know that they will read opinions from people who disagree with them.

Unfortunately I missed your post but I do find it funny that one would criticize Sweden but wouldn't dare criticize Trump. For me all parties should be making changes.

The US supports the mass slaughter of Yemenis yet turn on the news here and you wouldn't even know that this is happening. I am thankful for social media that we can find out these things even though they will sometimes offend some people but I hate Facebook and prefer to have nothing to do with them because they use offensive and divisive comments to get people to stay on Facebook like the news "when it bleeds, it leads."

But no apologies are necessary here if someone doesn't want to hear other people's comments on a journalist having his fingers and toes cut off while still alive, then his head and limbs and his body completely drained of vlood like an animal at slaughterhouse while his fiancee waits outside then they shouldn't click this.
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby Steve James on Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:25 pm

It's just blood for oil. Blood money is business as usual.
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby Trick on Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:34 pm

grzegorz wrote:LOL!



Funny how these Trump supporters who were always talking about Sharia law coming "here" are now supporters of Sharia law.

Sharia Law in sharia Law countries !? Don’t you support that ?
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:09 pm

Proposal to rename D.C. street outside Saudi Embassy for Khashoggi gains support


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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:12 pm

Trick wrote:
grzegorz wrote:LOL!



Funny how these Trump supporters who were always talking about Sharia law coming "here" are now supporters of Sharia law.

Sharia Law in sharia Law countries !? Don’t you support that ?


Using your logic IS is legit.
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby gzregorz on Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:22 pm

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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby grzegorz on Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:53 am

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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby Trick on Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:46 am

grzegorz wrote:
Trick wrote:
grzegorz wrote:LOL!



Funny how these Trump supporters who were always talking about Sharia law coming "here" are now supporters of Sharia law.

Sharia Law in sharia Law countries !? Don’t you support that ?


Using your logic IS is legit.

IS !? Keep such groups far far away from the civilized world.
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Re: The Saudi Embassy affair

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:15 pm

New York Times: Kushner in contact with Saudi crown prince after journalist's death - CNNPolitics
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