Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby Michael on Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:48 am

Instead of an air pistol, a gun with a much more powerful lithium ion battery that can shoot 0.177 to 0.50 cal projectiles. Carry two: one is chambered for stopping power and a capacity of 20, and one for suppression fire with 100 or more BB's. At the bar, instead of sobriety for driving, you'd be the Designated Defender.

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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby Trick on Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:04 am

.Q. wrote:
oragami_itto wrote: One of the Houston guys has developed this for a stealth weapon. Steel cane for blunt impact with a hollow handle that would probably gouge flesh well
https://arcanecane.com

Since I'm not old enough to be walking around with a cane without arousing suspicion, this would be better:
https://unbreakableumbrella.com/unbreak ... -standard/

Though I lose umbrellas all the time and I'd be terrified of losing something this expensive.

Can it shield for bullets flying when folded open? Does it turn “inside out” when actually using it and it’s windy weather or can one do a Mary Poppins fly away with it ? To whack someone in the head and poke an eye my regular brella would work fine I guess
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby .Q. on Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:57 pm

Trick wrote:
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oragami_itto wrote: One of the Houston guys has developed this for a stealth weapon. Steel cane for blunt impact with a hollow handle that would probably gouge flesh well
https://arcanecane.com

Since I'm not old enough to be walking around with a cane without arousing suspicion, this would be better:
https://unbreakableumbrella.com/unbreak ... -standard/

Though I lose umbrellas all the time and I'd be terrified of losing something this expensive.

Can it shield for bullets flying when folded open? Does it turn “inside out” when actually using it and it’s windy weather or can one do a Mary Poppins fly away with it ? To whack someone in the head and poke an eye my regular brella would work fine I guess

I doubt it does much other than being a really durable stick that you can walk around without looking suspicious. However, I'm sure most umbrellas are way too weak for any self defense. I've had one that literally bent just from me trying to shake the water off.
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby klonk on Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:30 pm

Steve James wrote:

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Maybe the question should be what form of non-lethal weapon we carry around. Hmm, at night, I do carry my "tactical" flashlight. It will blind someone temporarily if it's dark. Other than that, I have my Swiss army knife.,:)


What I have is not good enough by half. I have Fox 5.3 Stream pepper spray and a kubotan.

Even the good grade pepper sprays used by cops (such as Fox and Saber Red) frequently fail to do the job. Of course you know the joke about the kubotan. It is a fine weapon for someone who does not really need a weapon to deal with the situation. It is not without its good points; the Number Two Wrist Lock will certainly get someone's attention, but you have to be right there, no standoff distance at all.
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby Trick on Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:45 pm

Steve James wrote:I was dead serious about baseballs --which are capable of knocking someone out at seven yards. So, in a situation like a club where someone starts shooting, a few dozen balls thrown at a perp would at least confuse his aim until ... And, that's the thing, unless someone gets close enough to use his hands (or a hand weapon), the perp will keep shooting.

Of course, this is true for someone with a knife or club. In an attack, someone will have to go forward. Btw, I think a beer bottle or a shot glass would work just as well. Of course, this strategy works best when a lot of people (or everyone) is prepared to react in the same way. The more people who act, the sooner the threat can be eliminated.

Maybe the question should be what form of non-lethal weapon we carry around. Hmm, at night, I do carry my "tactical" flashlight. It will blind someone temporarily if it's dark. Other than that, I have my Swiss army knife.,:)

Read on today’s yahoo news headlines that an university in the US plan on gearing up on ice hockey pucks to be used in case of shooting assault.
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby meeks on Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:20 pm

yea... taking stones to a gunfight...
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby Steve James on Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:56 pm

yea... taking stones to a ...


Disco, church, of kindergarten ... yep, does seem excessive, unless one is expecting a gunfight. In that case, it would be safest to stay home. :)

I think the question is "what weapon would you give to every person at event X?" And, the objective is solely to mitigate the number of casualties, not prevent or deter shootings. Fair enough, just sad.
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby .Q. on Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:47 pm

Trick wrote:Read on today’s yahoo news headlines that an university in the US plan on gearing up on ice hockey pucks to be used in case of shooting assault.

I suspect rocks or bricks would be much cheaper and just as useful, maybe more so.
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby meeks on Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:10 pm

every redneck supporting their fantasy of 'good guy with a hockey puck' fantasy...
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Re: Less Lethal Weapons--I want your ideas

Postby Trick on Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:08 pm

meeks wrote:every redneck supporting their fantasy of 'good guy with a hockey puck' fantasy...

Baseballs where mentioned in the thread so I thought the Yahoo news about the US university armoring up on ice hockey pucks the posters suggestion had come around 8-) As I understood the university where in the Detroit area, I thought rednecks was a title bestowed the southerners?
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