Presidential candidates the height issue

[KEND]

I was watching Julian Casro as a possible democratic candidate, was impressed but history may work against him in terms of height
U.S. Presidents by height order
Abraham Lincoln at 6 ft 4 in (193 cm) surmounts Lyndon B. Johnson as the tallest president.
James Madison, the shortest President, was 5 ft 4 in (163 cm).
Rank No. President Height (in) Height (cm) references
1 16 Abraham Lincoln
6 ft 4 in 193 cm [4]

2 36 Lyndon B. Johnson
6 ft 3 1⁄2 in 192 cm [5][6][7]

3 45 Donald Trump
6 ft 3 in 191 cm [2][8][9]

4 3 Thomas Jefferson
6 ft 2 1⁄2 in 189 cm [10][11]

5 1 George Washington
6 ft 2 in 188 cm [12][13]

21 Chester A. Arthur
6 ft 2 in 188 cm [10]

32 Franklin D. Roosevelt
6 ft 2 in 188 cm [10]

41 George H. W. Bush
6 ft 2 in 188 cm [10][14]

42 Bill Clinton
6 ft 2 in 188 cm [10][14][15][16][17][18]

10 7 Andrew Jackson
6 ft 1 in 185 cm [10][19]

35 John F. Kennedy
6 ft 1 in 185 cm [10][20]

40 Ronald Reagan
6 ft 1 in 185 cm [10]

44 Barack Obama
6 ft 1 in 185 cm [21][22]

14 5 James Monroe
6 ft 0 in 183 cm [10][23]

10 John Tyler
6 ft 0 in 183 cm [10]

15 James Buchanan
6 ft 0 in 183 cm [10]

20 James A. Garfield
6 ft 0 in 183 cm [10]

29 Warren G. Harding
6 ft 0 in 183 cm [10]

38 Gerald Ford
6 ft 0 in 183 cm [10][24]

20 27 William Howard Taft
5 ft 11 1⁄2 in 182 cm [25]

31 Herbert Hoover
5 ft 11 1⁄2 in 182 cm [26]

37 Richard Nixon
5 ft 11 1⁄2 in 182 cm [10][24]

43 George W. Bush
5 ft 11 1⁄2 in 182 cm [18][27][28][29]

24 22, 24 Grover Cleveland
5 ft 11 in 180 cm [10]

28 Woodrow Wilson
5 ft 11 in 180 cm [10][30]

26 34 Dwight D. Eisenhower
5 ft 10 1⁄2 in 179 cm [10]

27 14 Franklin Pierce
5 ft 10 in 178 cm [10]

17 Andrew Johnson
5 ft 10 in 178 cm [10]

26 Theodore Roosevelt
5 ft 10 in 178 cm [10][23]

30 Calvin Coolidge
5 ft 10 in 178 cm [10]

31 39 Jimmy Carter
5 ft 9 1⁄2 in 177 cm [10][24]

32 13 Millard Fillmore
5 ft 9 in 175 cm [10]

33 Harry S. Truman
5 ft 9 in 175 cm [10]

34 19 Rutherford B. Hayes
5 ft 8 1⁄2 in 174 cm [10][31]

35 9 William Henry Harrison
5 ft 8 in 173 cm [10]

11 James K. Polk
5 ft 8 in 173 cm [10][32]

12 Zachary Taylor
5 ft 8 in 173 cm [10][23]

18 Ulysses S. Grant
5 ft 8 in 173 cm [33]

39 6 John Quincy Adams
5 ft 7 1⁄2 in 171 cm [34]

40 2 John Adams
5 ft 7 in 170 cm [10][35]

25 William McKinley
5 ft 7 in 170 cm [10]

42 8 Martin Van Buren
5 ft 6 in 168 cm [36]

23 Benjamin Harrison
5 ft 6 in 168 cm [37]

44 4 James Madison
5 ft 4 in 163 cm [10][38]

Electoral success as a function of height

Graph of winner v. loser heights in presidential elections from 1789 - 2004
Various folk wisdoms about U.S. presidential politics put forward the view that the taller of the two major-party candidates always wins or almost always wins since the advent of the televised presidential debate.
There is more data if the relationship of electoral success to height difference starts from the year 1900, rather than from the beginning of televised debates. In the twenty-eight presidential elections between 1900 and 2011, eighteen of the winning candidates have been taller than their opponents, while eight have been shorter, and two have been of the same height. On average the winner was 1.0 inch (2.5 cm) taller than the loser.
The claims about taller candidates winning almost all modern presidential elections is still pervasive, however. Examples of such views include:
• In Ray Bradbury's 1953 dystopian novel Fahrenheit 451, when Mildred and her friends talk about the success of one presidential candidate over the other in a recent election, they talk only about the attractiveness of the winning candidate over the loser. One of their points is "You just don't go running a little short man like that against a tall man."
• A 1988 article in the Los Angeles Times fashion section about a haberdasher devoted to clothing shorter men included a variation of the tale: "Stern says he just learned that Dukakis is 5 feet, 8 inches. 'Did you know,' he adds, noticeably disappointed, 'that since 1900 the taller of the two candidates always wins?'"[39]
• A 1997 book called How to Make Anyone Fall in Love with You discusses the issue in a section about the importance of height: "What about height? One assumes the taller the better, because our culture venerates height. In fact, practically every president elected in the United States since 1900 was the taller of the two candidates."[40]
• A chapter titled "Epistemology at the Core of Postmodernism" in the 2002 book Telling the Truth: Evangelizing Postmodernisms makes this observation: "I remember the subversive effect the observation had on me that in every U.S. presidential race, the taller of the two candidates had been elected. It opened up space for a counterdiscourse to the presumed rationality of the electoral process."[41]
• A 1975 book called First Impressions: The Psychology of Encountering Others notes: "Elevator Shoes, Anyone? One factor which has a far-reaching influence on how people are perceived, at least in American society, is height. From 1900 to 1968 the man elected U.S. president was always the taller of the two candidates. (Richard Nixon was slightly shorter than George McGovern.)"[42]
• A 1978 book titled The Psychology of Person Identification states: "They also say that every President of the USA elected since the turn of the [20th] century has been the taller

[Michael]

Dumb question, but how tall is Julian?

Can you convert that to Rogans*?

*obscure reference

[edededed]

It's not only elections - but CEOs, etc. tend to be tall as well. Besides height, deep voices and athletic physiques are helpful, too. (Women are treated somewhat differently from men - e.g. height is not a big factor.)

- What does this tell us about our democracies, but also our corporations?
- Or rather, what does that tell us about our leaders?
- Will we ever be able to have very short presidents or CEOs?

[KEND]

More often than not it appears to be image rather than issues that win the day, justification to support a candidate comes later.

[origami_itto]

At some future date only former NBA players will have a chance of becoming president

[edededed]

Unfortunately, other features like perceived race, religion, etc. are important factors as well. Height is just one that is rarely talked about or advertised.

[Steve James]

Unfortunately, other features like perceived race, religion, etc. are important factors as well. Height is just

Yeah, the one thing they all have in common is height . Penises also seem to be a factor, but we can't know about length.

[edededed]

A lot of people talk about Trump's member - his supporters imagine that it is huge, while his detractors imagine that it is tiny.

Luckily, only a few know its actual size.

If some paparazzi takes a picture of it and posts it to the Internet, I wonder if it could actually cause a change in his supporters?

[Trick]

ever be able to have very short presidents or CEOs?

that Madison guy was a shorty

[Trick]

At some future date only former NBA players will have a chance of becoming president

now i dont foĺlow the NBA or any other basketball events, but the litle ive seen it seem the players tall the coaches short.

[Bao]

CEOs and similar?

Below average height:

Mark Zuckerberg 1.71m
Jeff Bezos 1.71m

Approx average height, or slightly less:

Bill Gates 1.77m
Warren Buffett 1.78m

For entrepreneurs and successful business people, height matters less.

[origami_itto]

A lot of people talk about Trump's member - his supporters imagine that it is huge, while his detractors imagine that it is tiny.

Luckily, only a few know its actual size.

If some paparazzi takes a picture of it and posts it to the Internet, I wonder if it could actually cause a change in his supporters?

Too late

[Peacedog]

Bao,

That's a good observation.

Most of the highly successful entrepreneurs I know are of less than average height.

I think these are the same kinds of people who would have been siphoned off into leadership positions, but being on the small side they lacked the physical presence in comparison to the larger guys interested in these types of positions. So, they focused on making money wherein your physical presence just isn't that important.

Interestingly in military circles, you don't need to be a big guy to succeed in being a general. Wes Clark, for example, was a munchkin. He might have been 5'6".

[edededed]

Yes, the height issue is more about when leaders are chosen by a group of others.

In circumstances where actual skill is clearly measurable (I guess including the military!), it is less important. In CMA it is not very important, either!

(In most corporations, as measurement is very lacking, I think that the vacuum is filled in by unconscious bias, such as by height.)