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think about it

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:32 pm
by windwalker

Re: think about it

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:02 pm
by origami_itto
Yeah that's pretty much the theme of most Black Mirror episodes.
"Think about it, this technology could RUIN YOUR WORLD!!!!!!"

Re: think about it

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:39 pm
by windwalker
maybe, maybe not...

All tech like yin, yang, have both positive and negative points.
Once they'er able to reduce the size of the power packs maybe for those missing limbs
robotics can help them to have full functions that they didn't or couldn't have before.

Of course like the internet , DARPA is promoting a lot of this for military use...

ARPA research played a central role in launching the “Information Revolution,” including developing or furthering much of the conceptual basis for ARPANET, a pioneering network for sharing digital resources among geographically separated computers. Its initial demonstration in 1969 led to the Internet, whose world-changing consequences unfold on a daily basis today. A seminal step in this sequence took place in 1968 when ARPA contracted BBN Technologies to build the first routers, which one year later enabled ARPANET to become operational.


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Re: think about it

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:58 am
by origami_itto
I guess I'm missing your point.

The Black mirror episode is about that robot relentlessly hunting down some of the last remaining post apocalyptic human population. To then compare it to what Boston Dynamics is doing, well I thought the implication was pretty clear.

Most all of the Black mirror episodes are horror based on technology.

But yes, tech can usually be good or bad, things trend towards bad because people suck. They're fallible, ignorant, greedy, shortsighted, and generally selfish.

We should have hover boards by now.

Re: think about it

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:47 am
by windwalker
My point maybe very confused, was that the technology that we have now is very close to what is in the sci-Fi movie.

The trend of development is along these lines. Drones, and drones in the sea being the first level of development.

The "Black mirror" clip was something that someone had mentioned after watching the Boston robotics clip on another site, it seemed very close to what was being developed, thought it would make a good example contrasting what could be with what is so far.

I view tech. As a positive, as with anything there are negative aspects about it. In the military we talk about Force multipliers. Tech, enables a smaller Force to have the lethality of much larger forces.

This tends to drive the technology itself to stay ahead. China is pushing the development of AI.
Will be interesting as this tech comes of age.

Re: think about it

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:52 pm
by Steve James
Tech is neither positive or negative. People and the way they use technology are what define the tools. The guy who invented poison gas also developed modern fertilizer. Einstein didn't develop his theory so that a bomb could be made. He feared that the wrong people would want to create the bomb that could be created.

Note that the fear of robots is opposite to the fear of AI. Robots (an idea that precedes electricity) can be programmed by people to kill other people. Otoh, people fear AI because they can program themselves. :) I.e., they're too much like us. But, metal can't be evil.

Remember the original movie The Day the Earth Stood Still? There was a robot that had been created by a union of other civilized planets. It had the ability to wipe out any society/planet that broke the rules. It was like the universal police/military, and it had all power. What it didn't do was make up the laws. Anyway, the point of the movie was that the other planets had watched the Earth develop, and now saw a violent species trying to spread out into the universe. I totally agree with them. But we know that there's no way humans (at least in the developed world) would want to give power over to anyone.

There are several sci-fi movies that deal with a similar issue. Well, even in zombie films, it's the humans that are the most dangerous. The same with modern disaster ("post-apocalyptic") stories. Take away the technology and nothing changes; it's just crossbows and machetes instead of bullets. Shucks, the use of fire is technology, and people quickly figured out how to burn houses down,

At the other end of the spectrum, though, we get the Terminator (for adults) and Transformers (for the young). :)