the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

Bao wrote:Thanks Marteen, interesting. Nice pictures.

But you are wrong about that you cannot do canoeing in China. There are still clear lakes and rivers you can swim in. Even drink the water. If you come back I can take you there.

And Thanks Michael for the other documentaries, I will have a look at them.

It's not that you can't do it at all. Here I can do it any day I want to and it's not very far or expensive. I see hundreds of turtles and other wildlife. In 11 years in China I didn't see a single turtle because they have all been eaten. I saw and did many other cool things but a peaceful canoe or bicycle ride in China is just not something that is easily accessible for normal people. Riding a bike through dust clouds and almost getting run over by lorries is not my idea of a good time, yet that is the experience in all but the most remote areas of China now and you have to get your bike there first.

Within the big apartment compound I live there’s a big pound with big carps and quite a few turtles...Families have their pet dogs and cats as part of their families....There’s a new view on the environment quickly growing

The modernization of China bring good things, the Government pushing green environment policies out in the country side, alternative energy sources are researched and developing on big scale....If there is Hope, it’s here in China
The modernization of China bring good things, the Government pushing green environment policies out in the country side, alternative energy sources are researched and developing on big scale....If there is Hope, it’s here in China
I live in a coal mining city, due to several reasons the coal mining is decreasing here, the city kind of desperately need a new source for its economy, it has potentials with its nearby nature. I have put forward some ideas for the city that is sport related....But perhaps “unfortunately” they are about motor sport(motorcycles included) ...but still, there is hope here in China

I would be willing to wager that those turtles are non-native species, probably released pets.

I agree, though, that China has the power to improve very rapidly IF people want it to.

Almost all snakes were eaten during Mao's starvation years and, when I lived in Guangzhou, they only existed in the mountains bordering the north side of the city, where there were many species in small numbers within its large parks. I rarely saw them (cobras and pythons), but poisonous snakes in the main parts of Guangzhou are now becoming more and more frequent because they are being bred to be sold as pets in the apartment blocks and then escaping or are released by careless breeders.

Still never seen a squirrel in China.

I have actually seen a lot of wildlife in China, including wild monkeys, squirrels (one in Heilongjiang, some in Guilin and a giant Asian flying squirrel in another area of Guangxi, which was amazing!), rabbits, bamboo rats, a hedgehog, some rare birds, massive iridescent butterflies, giant centipedes and spiders, rhinoceros beetles, whip scorpions, lizards, a lot of snakes, a motherfucking king cobra, etc. Heard of wild boar and deer, but never saw any. Guilin, in the early days, was a world apart from Guangzhou. Unfortunately it's heading in the same direction and one must travel further and further to find nature...