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Postby windwalker on Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:49 am

Hopefully some one with good net-fu
can find the teachers name


https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/rVMFZ-sUxRZAgQFpcguIKQ


looking like the link won't load outside of wechat. :P


A taiji brother of mine felt it might have been our teacher in his earlier years.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o21lg4PG3jM&t=11s

In his 60s at the time of the clip...

What is shown in the link has the same flavor, its not clear as to
who the teacher is or was...

appreciate any help....As it is those I've spoken with say there is no name listed
and references Wu style. Found the Wu style reference interesting, kind of meshes
with some of the history as told by others.
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Postby nicklinjm on Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:37 pm

Have seen this video before as well, unfortunately don't know the name of the teacher. Given the form he does later in the clip it's obvious he's northern Wu branch. Maybe he's one of the lesser known 2nd generations from that branch like Cao Youfu, Li Wenjie, or Zhang Jizhi? They were all supposed to have very good tuishou gongfu.
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Postby windwalker on Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:51 pm

nicklinjm wrote:Have seen this video before as well, unfortunately don't know the name of the teacher. Given the form he does later in the clip it's obvious he's northern Wu branch. Maybe he's one of the lesser known 2nd generations from that branch like Cao Youfu, Li Wenjie, or Zhang Jizhi? They were all supposed to have very good tuishou gongfu.


thanks.for your time

During his time in Prince of Duan’s palace, one of the prince’s bodyguards 全佑 (Quan You) studied with Yang also. But Quan You could not be recognized as a disciple of Yang Luchan, as that would make him a brother of his master the prince. Instead, officially he became disciple of Yang Banhou – Yang Luchan’s son. After the fall of Qing Dynasty, like many Manchurians Quan You adopted a Han name – Wu (吴). Later on he would be recognized as founder of Wu Style Taijiquan.

https://internalmartialart.wordpress.co ... ce-guards/


it is interesting
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Postby windwalker on Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:08 pm

How different the times are now from back then

Another great master who also taught at Shen Ji Ying was Liu Shijun (劉士俊). That was where he had the famous encounter with Yang Banhou: one day Yang Ban Hou came home, he was happy because he threw Xiong Xian Li (Li’s nickname, he came from Xiong County). When Bauhou related the account to his father, Yang Luchan remarked, “don’t be too happy, it doesn’t look like a clean victory.” Banhou was puzzled.


Yang Luchan said “Look under your armpits.” Sure enough, there were holes under the armpits on Banhou’s robe. Liu Shijun, well-known master of eagle claw gongfu, could have caused him serious injury but obvious chose not to. Later that evening,

Yang Luchan felt uneasy thinking about this, and quickly made his way to Liu Shijun’s place. Liu was already packing his belongings to leave the city, as per tradition.

Yang persuaded him to stay, saying this encounter was but a casual crossing of hands, all the while praising Liu’s skill and character. After much persuasion, Liu finally agreed to stay and came to admire Yang. One of Liu’s most prominent disciples was Liu Dekuan (劉德寬), who went on to achieve even greater famous after studying with Dong Haichuan.


https://internalmartialart.wordpress.co ... ce-guards/

styles very distinct, teachers well known for their usage of them...

some recent threads on "secrets"

“the foreign soldiers came in with orders to wash the palace with our blood, in the end only a few of us made it out. I saw Master Ma Gui cutting a bloody path through the sieging armies.” This was a very valuable historical account, unique in that it actually mentioned the name of a martial art master.


Considering the history of the time, should be understandable
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Re: Information

Postby Trick on Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:24 am

Interesting video. I learned just for a short time with Li Binci in Beijing but never saw his group doing any such “refined applications” as in the OP. But yes an interesting video
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