Crazy (and not-so-crazy) shit about Covid-19

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Fwiw, the Spanish called it the French flu

The US soldiers durin 1ww thought they where in France when they ate Belgian fries .....called them French fries

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This is the bat-shit thread, so .... Turns out that Pompeo blames Russia, Iran, and China for the slow response. And Pence blames the slow response on China and the CDC. McConnell argues that the impeachment slowed Congressional response.

No April Fools, just one thing ya'll can check. Hindsight is 20/20.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5EA90F83

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... /26587505/ Wouldn’t be surprised if it originated in the us anyway

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So there are supposedly only 9countries in the world that harbor bio safety level4 labs(perhaps lucky so), why just nine countries ? Are those labs under an single governing body that act apart from the countries governments hosting those labs? Find it hard to believe, but hey this is the Crazy virus thread.....free to brainstorm

[Steve James]

Well, Dr. Fauci has to have security because he's been getting death threats. Go figure.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Btw, crew on the Roosevelt have been allowed to stay in quarantine on Guam.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html

[windwalker]

So there are supposedly only 9countries in the world that harbor bio safety level4 labs(perhaps lucky so), why just nine countries ? Are those labs under an single governing body that act apart from the countries governments hosting those labs? Find it hard to believe, but hey this is the Crazy virus thread.....free to brainstorm

great idea maybe they should make some type of world health organization that would monitor things like virus

Oops Forgot there is one the WHO

How’s it working out

When all is said and done the US should
establish its own monitoring system.

Similar to NORAD

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/calif ... plocalnews
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-engineer-ran-train-off-the-end-of-rail-tracks-in-attempted-attack-on-usns-mercy-in-los-angeles-doj-says/ar-BB123hkm?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=hplocalnews

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-engineer-ran-train-off-the-end-of-rail-tracks-in-attempted-attack-on-usns-mercy-in-los-angeles-doj-says/ar-BB123hkm?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=hplocalnews
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-engineer-ran-train-off-the-end-of-rail-tracks-in-attempted-attack-on-usns-mercy-in-los-angeles-doj-says/ar-BB123hkm?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=hplocalnews

A California man faces federal charges after officials allege he ran a train "at full speed off the end of rail tracks" near the U.S. Naval Ship Mercy, the 1,000-bed floating hospital that arrived in the Port of Los Angeles last week amid the coronavirus pandemic

stress and panic. Unless people have been trained or have worked in those type of environments many will react in strange ways.

Very surprised that the ship didn’t have some type of security set up around it.
Maybe it does, or will have very shortly.

On a side note, the captain of the aircraft carrier who thought it would be a good idea to allow his sailors to have shore leave in Vietnam during a virus pandemic ,
should be a shit canned.

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so b.gates pops up all too often in the news as an expert virus/influenza "influencer"...yes his 'gates foundation' reserch and suposedly get patents on viruses and vaccines...i read almost daily how he strongly advocates some three months total lock down....of course after such a thing he will still hold an top position in the billionaires club, so financially hes not going to suffer too much, and perhaps whatever loss he may suffer, he probably will make an tenfold gain selling his vaccines.....cant figure out if he is an savior or the beast.....

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A lot of those guys live in a very different world which forms their worldview.
If you’re read about Bill Gates in the early days.
A lot of the people who did coding back then didn’t like him .
Many in the FOSS free open source software, Community

Like many things in the world what he did and developed had some good consequences
and some bad ones.

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The train engineer is a conspiracy theorist.

The ship commander probably doesn't care if he's canned if his crew is saved. No way to tell how the virus got aboard ship. Anyway, he might have taken his cue from the CIC, just as the Governor of Florida did. Shit rises to the top too. Leaders should be held account for their mistakes.

Yeah, funny all the hate for the guy who warned about this exact situation. It's just like the hate for Fauci and experts.

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The ship commander probably doesn't care if he's canned if his crew is saved. No way to tell how the virus got aboard ship.

might want to read up on it.
The job of those in charge of others in the military is very different than the job of the president.
for those not having been in the military in charge of anyone in the military wouldn’t expect much understanding
of their primary mission.




The captain failed in both.

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Let's see what a military tribunal says. Sorry, but if the captain failed his crew, then the president failed the captain and the country. Leadership is leadership. Anyway, there are thousands of ships at sea, and the pandemic is by definition almost everywhere. What is the current CiC directive to the military? What happens if the virus turns up on another ship? Are current ships at sea going to be allowed to dock anywhere without possible exposure to the virus?

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Anywhere those ships come into contact with other ships (human-to-human contact especially) is a risk. However, that's already happened of course. A friend's brother is on another ship whose personnel went to help the Roosevelt earlier (before knowing anyone was sick). So that entire ship is also at risk. You can't isolate everyone within the ship, but perhaps you can keep other ships from being in contact with ships with known infections. Not sure what people in Guam are now at risk, but I guess the idea is there is more space for quarantine on land.

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Anywhere those ships come into contact with other ships (human-to-human contact especially) is a risk. However, that's already happened of course. A friend's brother is on another ship whose personnel went to help the Roosevelt earlier (before knowing anyone was sick). So that entire ship is also at risk. You can't isolate everyone within the ship, but perhaps you can keep other ships from being in contact with ships with known infections. Not sure what people in Guam are now at risk, but I guess the idea is there is more space for quarantine on land.

Might wanna look at the timeline of when the virus first emerged understanding the positions of the ships relative to it.


Even discussing this is not a good idea.
It does make for sensational news.

Only in the USA

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I don't really know those timelines, but it does seem like a concern.

... yes probably the news just likes to talk about it as all talks of cruises and other ships "sells" a lot of pageviews since people can relate to the confined-on-ship idea and worry about it.