Crazy (and not-so-crazy) shit about Covid-19

[windwalker]

Repeated claims of "studies" proving the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. I have yet to see any double-blind, placebo-controlled studies.
The most promising have been retroactive examinations of data, which are not studies.

https://c19study.com/

is this graph wrong or misleading?

are "double-blind, placebo-controlled studies". Ethical ?
don't quite understand the resistance to taking or using something
that has been claimed by many people and doctors to be quite effective as a therapeutic

The drug itself has been used to treat other things for many yrs the side effects if any
are known and understood.

[Steve James]

In order to need hcq, you have to have caught the corona virus and have covid-19 in the hospital or under a doctor's care.

Therefore, wear a mask to help stop others from catching your coronavirus. I.e., no corona, no need for hcq.

Anyway, Vlad has a vaccine for you.

[windwalker]

In order to need hcq, you have to have caught the corona virus and have covid-19 in the hospital or under a doctor's care.

Therefore, wear a mask to help stop others from catching your coronavirus. I.e., no corona, no need for hcq.

Anyway, Vlad has a vaccine for you.

Yep, I'm sure you'll be fist in line.

might want to check on "in order to need"

The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) on Saturday said that hydroxychloroquine or HCQ should be used as prophylaxis to prevent the coronavirus and not as a treatment for COVID-19.

Breaking News: ICMR Permits Prophylactic Use Of Hydroxy—Chloroquine For Coronavirus; Check Out Indications, Doses

https://medicaldialogues.in/medicine/gu ... oses-64166

[Steve James]

Like I said, no get sick, no need hcq in first place. That applies to everybody and everybody wins. So, if you're not wearing a mask, you're just a satisfied spreader.

I already said that I won't even take the US vaccine.

[Trick]

It will probably involve firearms and it will kill a large number of these Antifa/BLM imbeciles. When it happens, the authorities will probably not investigate.

If those two groups don’t self implode, they will probably be the ones that eventually will clash........Wasn’t that what actually happened in Seattle ?

[Trick]

.
Vlad has a vaccine for you.

Russian scientists are effective. Russians where first in space, wich made the USAians hurry into the Hollywood studios......

[Peacedog]

Soviet/Russian biowarfare is traditionally one of the top nations for this kind of thing, so I don't put it past them to have come up with an effective vaccine.

That said, the timeline is really questionable. How many people could you have deliberately infected and how many different variants could have been tested in multiple cohorts to determine efficacy during a handful of months?

And the Russian government does not have the best track record with transparency.

As for Antifa/BLM, they've mostly been robbing businesses and attacking government buildings. I've seen nothing to indicate that they are about to target each other. They are highly unlikely to implode either as their actions are being directly encouraged by socialist mayors and city councils. These people in government want society to fail as they think it can be used as an opportunity to take more control over society. The violent rioting will only end when government uses violence to stop it and the mayor/city council in Seattle/Minneapolis/New York City/etc. have made it clear they have no intention of doing the job themselves. If anything they have been further limiting the ability of law enforcement to act.

The federal government is not being more forceful on the issue as the presidential election is coming in November. After November if Trump is re-elected expect a tsunami of Federal law enforcement to clean the streets out. If Biden/Harris win, expect things to get worse as their federal appointees will act to intentionally limit the power of local law enforcement to deal with the problem.

[Steve James]

The funny thing is that BLM --as an organization, at least-- started long before 2016. Unrest over police brutality go back at least to the 90s, and Rodney King. Trayvon Martin protests happened during Obama's terms. The blatant fact is that all this has blown up since Trump's election, and his warm support for the KKKermit/Qanon/Klub. It wasn't happening when there was a Black president. If Trump is reelected, it'll get worse.

Well, frankly, he said he'd make America great, and other than Wall Street, we're obviously not even as good as we were. And, we were told how bad off we were before he got in office. Anybody who believes different hasn't been affected by the pandemic. Anyway, there's no doubt that the right wing will emphasize how violent the left is simply a way to justify its own violence. It's the same tactic of generating fear and insecurity. It'll exist whether Trump wins or loses.

Anyway, "BLM' is just an idea that can't be afraid, let alone be destroyed. It's like "All men are created equal" and "Equal justice under law" and all those other good ideas that have been rejected. Or, better yet, that people have come to see are just as fake as a comb over or claims of stable genius.

[roger hao]

Regards the numbers...................

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

Repeated claims of "studies" proving the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. I have yet to see any double-blind, placebo-controlled studies.
The most promising have been retroactive examinations of data, which are not studies.

https://c19study.com/

is this graph wrong or misleading?

are "double-blind, placebo-controlled studies". Ethical ?
don't quite understand the resistance to taking or using something
that has been claimed by many people and doctors to be quite effective as a therapeutic

The drug itself has been used to treat other things for many yrs the side effects if any
are known and understood.

Yes, it is. You yourself are evidence of that. You are misled.

Yes, double-blind studies are ethical if the participants are aware of what is happening.

Claims are not the same as a double-blind placebo-controlled study. These have been carried out and show no benefit--in fact the opposite.

[windwalker]

Yes, it is. You yourself are evidence of that. You are misled.

Yes, double-blind studies are ethical if the participants are aware of what is happening.

Claims are not the same as a double-blind placebo-controlled study. These have been carried out and show no benefit--in fact the opposite.

So instead of answering my question you just ran around making further claims... so you're not trying to have a logical discussion where you're able to strengthen your position with facts, but simply opine

About sums it up.

[Ian C. Kuzushi]

Yes, it is. You yourself are evidence of that. You are misled.

Yes, double-blind studies are ethical if the participants are aware of what is happening.

Claims are not the same as a double-blind placebo-controlled study. These have been carried out and show no benefit--in fact the opposite.

So instead of answering my question you just ran around making further claims... so you're not trying to have a logical discussion where you're able to strengthen your position with facts, but simply opine

About sums it up.

This makes even less sense than most of your other posts.

[Steve James]

But covid ... won't stop the people, and if ya kill 'em all, what does that make ya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEGqpG_wsQ

[everything]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/16/health/p ... index.html

why people go into denial and rationalization over covid or anything else. at least that explains to me some of the stupidity everyone can have. it doesn't explain why we seem to have these problems far more severely in the usa or in certain states.

[Peacedog]

A couple of very interesting articles on the long term impact of the various shutdowns.

https://www.aier.org/article/what-will- ... overnment/

https://www.aier.org/article/how-a-free ... henderson/