The brave new word /after covid war/

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The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby wiesiek on Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:02 am

1. better, stronger government /or more proper world - NST (National Saving Team?) :)
established on restricted antiviruses law (it is happening right now in Hungary)
2. full control of your earning and expenses due to removin` money in favor of electronic banking/cards

fell free to add more interesting predictions 8-)
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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby Trick on Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:23 am

theres a book named "a brave new world" similar to the "1984" but was published two decades earlier
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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby wiesiek on Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:44 am

"a Brave new word" is the A. Huxley futuristic novel /beatnik`s era around `60/
I allowed myself to use his title :)
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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby Michael on Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:48 am

CV is Really About Technocracy

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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby Michael on Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:00 am

It has not been confirmed if the corona virus was engineered, but the labs in Wuhan were working on horshoe bat corona viruses; one of them still has a job opening up for it.

At least as far back as 2007, there was a warning in a journal and Nature magazine in 2015 about the risks and benefits of engineering horsehoe bat corona viruses in order to make them able to jump to human. I posted the links earlier <here> in the crazy covid thread.

People on TV often begin speaking by exalting science and it sounds like an obeisance. Huxley wrote about science in the following way.

Aldous Huxley - Brave New World on Science

P. 177
"A New Theory of Biology" was the title of the paper which Mustapha Mond had just finished reading. He sat for some time, meditatively frowning, then picked up his pen and wrote across the title-page: "The author's mathematical treatment of the conception of purpose is novel and highly ingenious, but heretical and, so far as the present social order is concerned, dangerous and potentially subversive. Not to be published." He underlined the words. "The author will be kept under supervision. His transference to the Marine Biological Station of St. Helena may become necessary." A pity, he thought, as he signed his name. It was a masterly piece of work. But once you began admitting explanations in terms of purpose—well, you didn't know what the result might be. It was the sort of idea that might easily decondition the more unsettled minds among the higher castes—make them lose their faith in happiness as the Sovereign Good and take to believing, instead, that the goal was somewhere beyond, somewhere outside the present human sphere, that the purpose of life was not the maintenance of well-being, but some intensification and refining of consciousness, some enlargement of knowledge. Which was, the Controller reflected, quite possibly true. But not, in the present circumstance, admissible. He picked up his pen again, and under the words "Not to be published" drew a second line, thicker and blacker than the first; then sighed, "What fun it would be," he thought, "if one didn't have to think about happiness!"

P. 225
That's another reason why we're so chary of applying new inventions. Every discovery in pure science is potentially subversive; even science must sometimes be treated as a possible enemy. Yes, even science."

"Science is dangerous; we have to keep it most carefully chained and muzzled."

"What?" said Helmholtz, in astonishment. "But we're always saying that science is everything. It's a hypnopædic platitude."

"Three times a week between thirteen and seventeen," put in Bernard. "And all the science propaganda we do at the College ..."

"Yes; but what sort of science?" asked Mustapha Mond sarcastically. "You've had no scientific training, so you can't judge. I was a pretty good physicist in my time. Too good–good enough to realize that all our science is just a cookery book, with an orthodox theory of cooking that nobody's allowed to question, and a list of recipes that mustn't be added to except by special permission from the head cook. I'm the head cook now. But I was an inquisitive young scullion once. I started doing a bit of cooking on my own. Unorthodox cooking, illicit cooking. A bit of real science, in fact." He was silent.
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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby everything on Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:02 am

well.... we can look to various east asian countries.

- national command center in case of epidemics. fully staffed. has people, equipment, prepared to give daily updates. etc.
- ready to monitor and quarantine people
- culture in general: just like we used to never wear seat belts or helmets, we don't wear a mask now. we should.
amateur practices til gets right pro til can't get wrong
/ better approx answer to right q than exact answer to wrong q which can be made precise /
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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby wiesiek on Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:14 am

everything is supported by "Morning Program"
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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby windwalker on Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:48 pm

everything wrote:well.... we can look to various east asian countries.

- national command center in case of epidemics. fully staffed. has people, equipment, prepared to give daily updates. etc.
- ready to monitor and quarantine people
- culture in general: just like we used to never wear seat belts or helmets, we don't wear a mask now. we should.



Because?

the natural question would be why do they wear the mask in the first place
In the winter time.

Maybe for the same reasons that people in other countries cover their faces in the winter time.

You do realize in a lot of those east
Asian countries you talk about there are many things that you can do in the US that would not be allowed there.
There are many things they do there, that most people would not do in the US.

Example in Thailand before a movie is played they play a short clip of the king and stand up as their national anthem is
played. This was a while back.

If you’re caught disrespecting the king or the royal family, life will won’t good for you
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Re: The brave new word /after covid war/

Postby edededed on Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:59 pm

Culture is in some ways arbitrary (e.g. masks or no masks?) while other parts are orchestrated (e.g. disrespect the rulers and we will jail you). But culture is not static; in general, it is good to change culture in a positive way (e.g. towards actual, good reasons to do something).

Japan in 1800 had a totally different culture from Japan in 2020. The same can be said for American culture, Chinese culture, etc. Some things change, some things stay - for better and for worse. Increasing the better is a good thing, as is decreasing the worse.
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