windwalker wrote:
In the US in Seattle for example some areas have been taking over.
Guess what is one of the first things they do.
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Steve James wrote:Columbus called the people he met "Indians" because he thought he was in India. He never reached the continent. The Spaniards called it the West Indies. Vespucci went on voyages after Columbus, and made it to both north and south parts of what he realized was a new continent, not part of Asia. So, map makers gave the new continent his name. Though Colombia is named after you know who.
What does “America” mean, the indigenous people’s was named after an European ?
i neither speak spanish or latin.....i google ........in latin columba/columbia supposedly mean Dove....and back in those Columbus days il guess latin was a thing among the learned ones from europe? .....No, Colombia wasn't "probably" named after Columbus. Paloma is dove in Spanish, at least in the Spanish I know.
Where do you get these ideas?
Steve James wrote:What does “America” mean, the indigenous people’s was named after an European ?
Yeah, it's "common knowledge" but not everybody, not even all West Indians know it.
No, Colombia wasn't "probably" named after Columbus. Paloma is dove in Spanish, at least in the Spanish I know.
Where do you get these ideas?
Anyway, there are lots of places named for Columbus. People have wondered why the continent wasn't named Columbia. Btw, in fact, if the UK is given physical embodiment, it's called Britannia. (Common knowledge for Brits). However, I'm not sure it's common for an American to know that his country's symbol isn't "America," but Columbia. Check it out.
The Brits gave the name to their 13 colonies, and that's how it happened. Hey, maybe it's why Washington D. CCCCC is our capital.
Meh, there's always wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_(name)#:~:text=Columbia%20is%20a%20New%20Latin,%2C%20Gallia%2C%20and%20others).
Bao wrote:Excellent article from 2015, Chomsky is not afraid to say the truth. Though he is maybe too kind and modest and just give a glimpse of it. Well worth reading.
Chomsky says US is the world's biggest terrorist
Steve James wrote:The civil war thing I read about was in one of Sweden’s “main stream” papers
The threat of a civil war is a right wing theme. The Swedish media got it from right wing spokespeople, or the president. Funny that the leader of the "party of Lincoln" talks about civil war. Lincoln was a "union" man. He'd have accepted slavery if the union could be saved. The confederates would only accept that they would be able to maintain slavery, so they split. They also had to attack first.
So, when the president repeats that stuff, some people think there's a chance for it. Then, it ends up on Swedish tv/media. Soon, it's all over the world. Well, ok, there's always been talk of NYS becoming independent (but Texas already considers itself a republic, and Alaska has also had people who talked of leaving). Well, I know that NYC on its own could survive. I'm not so sure about West Virginia or Kentucky. However, there's a simple reason loyal Americans have to be against breaking up. It's called the Pledge of Allegiance. My European friends laughed when I told them what we had to say every day in front of the flag before school.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands: One nation (under God was added later), Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All."
It was/is the same as taking an oath that you believed that stuff. It's like "I swear to uphold the Constitution of the US and defend it from all enemies foreign and domestic." My European friends were impressed. We have the greatest words.
Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Also, Columbus only became an American hero quite after the fact. We needed a symbol who wasn't British around the tricentennial and suddenly statues went up everywhere. Not really all that dissimilar from all the confederate statues that went up LONG after the defeat of the South. Invented traditions and all of that.
Steve James wrote:I know about the red cow, but I haven't seen the episode. There are people seriously trying to breed one. But, it's like the color tekhelet.
Well, I'm a strict Union man. The Union won against the Confederates, the way the Americans won against the Indians.
But how about now? If the hardcore red states wanted to create a Trumpistan and the blue states wanted to be more like Canada, would you disagree?
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