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China Undercover - Frontline



https://youtu.be/wM1DjkPWtj0

unavailable vid.

Chinese censorship?

A lot of the people on rsf seem to think it's all made up. Those are not concentration camps in China, they are holiday camps or something.To be honest, there's no point posting these facts here - nobody will listen.

Except for that one guy in China who sent me a dm agreeing

wiesiek wrote:unavailable vid.

Chinese censorship?

Watch this instead and you will clearly see how terrible Xinjiang is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C83eSHHG4vk

Bao - brief snippets of footage and anecdotes do not count as reporting. That's why we have 'freedom of the press', despite whatever views you may hold democratically free media undeniably provides more accurate information on the state of societies and the people therein.

The world's collective journalistic outlets have provided numerous reports of the situation there, which you continue to deny. Would be lovely if, I don't know, people could actually go there and freely document the state of things... shame for some unknown reason the party refuses to allow people to think for themselves or speak for themselves, or travel freely, or contact the outside world freely.

As has been discussed here previously, the Politburo in Beijing has had a long term desire to eliminate all non-Han populations in the PRC.

Only after recent economic growth, ironically provided by the West, has the regime acquired the resources to enact this desire.

Reporting indicates that all the significant minority groups are being applied this kind of pressure most notably the Tibetans, Uyghurs and Mongols. Cultural, and racial, homogeneity are the historic norm among human civilizations.

The story of how the Han became the Han is interesting in and of itself. Those familiar with it understand that what is happening currently in the PRC is really just the continuation of a very old story. Sadly the populations involved can't even run. They are dead. They just don't know it yet.

The Frontline documentary was eye opening!
Initially China did not have the technology but through the technology (at that time!) of video, etc working with multinationals, they overcame that gap and even exceeded the requirement and stealth theft of propietary resources, they used it to control thier provinces who are non Han and as a result, this forced assimilation (language, habits, etc) they 'destroy" (attempt ) those groups who have numerical superiority and prop up the 'minority' peoples of Yunnan and other places where their numbers are negligible to say they respect 'minorities (non Han Peoples).

Even Hong Kong is a threat so that tells us it is more than just majority vs minority but the power to control those who are potential benefactors ofthe future.

Peacedog wrote:Cultural, and racial, homogeneity are the historic norm among human civilizations.

Says who?

The early Han Dynasty was made possible and largely defined by diverse and autonomous regions. History is actually far more multicultural than most laypersons tend to think. The Roman Empire, the Habsburg monarchy, and the United States are all prime examples of racially and culturally mixed empires.

Also, your use of hegemony is not the historical one. Ironically, the way you are using hegemony comes from the Marxist philosopher, Antonio Gramsci.

The notion that Han domination was some preordained, natural outcome is an extremely ahistorical and teleologically problematic one. But, so are most of your comments about culture, race, and homogeneity.

Completely wrong.

Watch this instead and you will clearly see how terrible Xinjiang is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C83eSHHG4vk

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Hey, North Korea looks pretty swell in this video.

GrahamB wrote:A lot of the people on rsf seem to think it's all made up. Those are not concentration camps in China, they are holiday camps or something.To be honest, there's no point posting these facts here - nobody will listen.

Except for that one guy in China who sent me a dm agreeing

Probably not a lot, just a prolific posting lot.

Ian C. Kuzushi wrote: Hey, North Korea looks pretty swell in this video.

Did you really think so?

Should be this US produced documentary in the OP. It even manages to throw in Huawei in the pot with accusations. Wish they could come up with something else than just loose allegations. Would be interesting to see if there's some kind of reality behind them.

If cameras everywhere means that everyone in a city lives in a prison, I guess London is the greatest prison anywhere to be found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hSS6raq0eg

Comrade Bao has spoken. Long live the party.

Lol! Another comment that adds significant value to the discussion.

I think I'll post some Chinese propaganda videos just for the fun of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqCIiGnCnI




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3YBomwuB10

Hey Bao, what do you personally think happens at a re-education camp in China, generally? Do you think re-education is necessary? would you call these places re-education camps of something else?

Granted that calling them work camps or concentration camps might be an exaggeration, if they exist, do you think they are a good thing?