Trump supporters commit sedition

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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Steve James on Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:28 am

Russia Collusion - the grandaddy of all conspiracy theories.


You're kidding. Wrong on both counts. The JKF assassination might not even qualify as the granddaddy of conspiracy theories. And, "no collusion" becomes a strawman when it's broken down into straight English: as in did Trump associates talk with Russians to find and publish negative information about Clinton? Did Trump publicly encourage them to do so? Sure they did. Was it collusion? I dunno. But, it wasn't a theory. The Republican Intel committee released its final report last August.

Washington — A nearly 1,000-page report released by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday documented a broad set of links and interactions between Russian government operatives and members of the 2016 Trump campaign, adding new details and dimensions to the account laid out last year by special counsel Robert Mueller and raising counterintelligence concerns about certain Russian efforts that may have persisted into the 2020 election season.

Tuesday's report was the committee's final, and long-awaited, chapter in its more than three-year investigation into Russia's 2016 election interference, marking the conclusion of what was held up as the last and arguably only bipartisan congressional investigation into the matter. Spanning 966 pages, it concluded, as have other assessments of Russia's efforts, that Moscow "engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election."

The report, redacted in parts, detailed extensive contacts between Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian national who worked closely with Manafort for years. The report labeled Kilimnik a "Russian intelligence officer," and said Manafort, for reasons the committee could not determine, sought on numerous occasions to "secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik." It also said the committee obtained "some information" linking Kilimnik to Russian intelligence services' efforts to hack and leak information to damage Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.



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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:58 am

Meanwhile, a shockingly large number of Republicans think that Democrats are drinking the essence of babies and worshiping the devil. ::)

I saw a bit of Fox News two nights ago. Laura Ingram was unabashedly claiming that it was Biden who is carrying out an insurrection, as opposed to Trump having done it. I'd say you can't make this stuff up, but they do it every single day.
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby roger hao on Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:39 pm

It also turns out that the poster child of the Insurrection -Officer Sicknick
did not die of injuries sustained in the Capitol riot. He was never struck in the head.
He died of a stroke.
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby roger hao on Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:46 pm

and now - we need someone to explain away why Nancy Pelosi
refused to bring in support for the Capitol when 2 things happened -

1/ warned of the impending attack before 1/6
2/ asked repeatedly to request National Guard

Sund says he requested assistance six times ahead of and during the attack on the Capitol. Each of those requests was denied or delayed, he says.

Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser also wanted a light police presence at the Capitol. She reportedly wanted to avoid a similar scenario as last summer, when federal forces responded to demonstrators opposed to police abuses who assembled near the White House.

During Wednesday's violence, Bowser requested, and received, a limited force of 340 from the D.C. National Guard. Those troops were unarmed and their job was to help with traffic flow — not law enforcement, which was meant to be handled by D.C. police.
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Steve James on Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:10 pm

Well, I thought it was a black flag operation by Antifa. Nancy knew the "law and order" Trump supporters would be so easily incited to violence; so, she ignored security concerns. Besides, what would you have said if she'd said she expected the Trump mob to be violent? Anyway, now we know.

Afa ofc Sicknick's cause of death, ok, he was just a young guy who had a stroke. A couple of officers who were there committed suicide. One hundred forty officers were hospitalized, and at least one lost an eye. That could all be coincidental. But, four Trump supporters died, too. I've often wondered if he'd call to give condolences to any of them.
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby klonk on Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:50 pm

Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Meanwhile, a shockingly large number of Republicans think that Democrats are drinking the essence of babies and worshiping the devil. ::)

I saw a bit of Fox News two nights ago. Laura Ingram was unabashedly claiming that it was Biden who is carrying out an insurrection, as opposed to Trump having done it. I'd say you can't make this stuff up, but they do it every single day.


I've been wondering something here, Ian Unbalanced, and I have been wondering it for years. Do you have a working definition of what "hate speech" is, and if so, how do you sleep at night?
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Trick on Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:01 pm

Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Meanwhile, a shockingly large number of Republicans think that Democrats are drinking the essence of babies and worshiping the devil. ::)


Bohemian grove meetings are true ? And supposedly they all no matter political affiliation meet there to feast.....
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Trick on Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:06 pm

roger hao wrote:It also turns out that the poster child of the Insurrection -Officer Sicknick
did not die of injuries sustained in the Capitol riot. He was never struck in the head.
He died of a stroke.

Struck, strike , stroke...words that could easily be mixed up
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby klonk on Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:13 pm

Trick wrote:
roger hao wrote:It also turns out that the poster child of the Insurrection -Officer Sicknick
did not die of injuries sustained in the Capitol riot. He was never struck in the head.
He died of a stroke.

Struck, strike , stroke...words that could easily be mixed up


Stroke in English can mean apoplexy. That is, doubtless, what it means in this case. It can also mean the blow of a sword, but that use is archaic; you see that use in Tennyson.
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Trick on Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:56 pm

klonk wrote:
Trick wrote:
roger hao wrote:It also turns out that the poster child of the Insurrection -Officer Sicknick
did not die of injuries sustained in the Capitol riot. He was never struck in the head.
He died of a stroke.

Struck, strike , stroke...words that could easily be mixed up


Stroke in English can mean apoplexy. That is, doubtless, what it means in this case. It can also mean the blow of a sword, but that use is archaic; you see that use in Tennyson.

Yes, at least we can count out -
. an act of moving one's hand across a surface with gentle pressure.
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Steve James on Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:28 am

Fwiw, in this case, a "stroke" occurs when --for some reason-- blood supply to the brain is interrupted. It could come from a burst blood vessel or from a clot. It can occur because of a traumatic injury, from stress, from aging, from stress ("he burst a blood vessel"), or it can just happen. You can have a weakened blood vessel in your head from birth, and one day ... pop!
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:57 am

klonk wrote:
Ian C. Kuzushi wrote:Meanwhile, a shockingly large number of Republicans think that Democrats are drinking the essence of babies and worshiping the devil. ::)

I saw a bit of Fox News two nights ago. Laura Ingram was unabashedly claiming that it was Biden who is carrying out an insurrection, as opposed to Trump having done it. I'd say you can't make this stuff up, but they do it every single day.


I've been wondering something here, Ian Unbalanced, and I have been wondering it for years. Do you have a working definition of what "hate speech" is, and if so, how do you sleep at night?


It's easy enough to figure out. Just watch some Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones. Or, follow Q whose entire delusion is undergirded by antisemitic tropes.

Majority Of Republicans Believe The QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is Partly Or Mostly True, Survey Finds


https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/ ... d1f92e5231

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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby roger hao on Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:09 am

The meaning of stroke in Officer Sicknick case is that he was not smote.
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby Steve James on Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:10 am

Smote is the conjugation of the verb "to smite" which means to strike, hence a "golf stroke." But, that's just semantics. Many officers were struck. You called him a "poster child," apparently because he was singled out. Now, what, are you using him as the poster child of those who were appalled at the riot? What about the other 139 officers who received treatment? We saw several of them being struck. Whose poster children are they? Respect the blue, right?
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Re: Trump supporters commit sedition

Postby meeks on Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:12 am

roger hao wrote:It also turns out that the poster child of the Insurrection -Officer Sicknick
did not die of injuries sustained in the Capitol riot. He was never struck in the head.
He died of a stroke.

right there - THIS is how we know the insurrection is a false flag...
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