Steve James wrote:Ian, 1812 had nothing to do with ultra nationalism or ultranationalists. It was the British who invaded the Capitol, not the Confederates. But, there is an ample history of nationalist violence in the US since the 19th century. It is not going away, any more than the Confederate flag. If you think that Trump in jail changes the people who fly that flag, I think you're wrong. And, I'd argue that they'll be as easy to change as the people who believe that Antifa played a major role in the Capitol attack.
My argument remains that the only person who could possibly change their minds would be Trump himself, live and in person. Symptom or disease, he's their leader and they believe him.
Ian, 1812 had nothing to do with ultra nationalism or ultranationalists.
It was the British who invaded the Capitol, not the Confederates.
@ Steve, I agree that Trump is largely a symptom, but you (nor can anyone) can't (edited from "can") say with certainty that racist ultranationalist currents would have expressed themselves in this specific way (it hasn't happened since 1812).
What's the use of forwarding solutions that will never happen?
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