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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Steve James on Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:22 pm

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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby roger hao on Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:13 pm

Texas: Installed capacity 28,843MW. Texas dominates the nation's wind energy production with a total installed capacity of 28,843MW in 2019. ...
Iowa: Installed capacity 10,190MW. ...
Oklahoma: Installed capacity 8,172MW. ...
Kansas: Installed capacity 6,128MW. ...
5. California: Installed capacity 5,973MW.

Is it ironic that Texas has led the way in wind energy?

Is that what is stimulating the animosity towards Texas? Because they
Did not spend money to deal with a once in a hundred years weather event?
Do you guys go and make fun of people that get flooded out after building in flood
zones?
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Steve James on Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:47 pm

Are trying to shame people? Tsk, tsk. If we brought up fires in CA, would that be shaming them. How about shaming states with people dying of covid? That would be cruel. Anyway.

Is it ironic that Texas has led the way in wind energy?


Leading the way? Do you mean having the largest capacity? Sure. Otoh, Texas is having more blackouts than any other state? That is ironic. Actually, the wind turbines there are just as capable as those in Iowa where they are not having the same problems.

Anyway, fwiw,
The state generating the highest percentage of energy from wind power is Iowa at 42% of total energy production, while North Dakota has the most per capita wind generation.


Iowa depends on wind power for 42% of its total energy. Seems like they're "leading the way" since it seems to be working. And, clearly it could work in Texas too. I'm rooting for the people in Texas, especially because the people most affected are the poor.

Oops, I know, ya can't call anyone a climate change denier without being offensive. Free speech and all. But, if you want to say that I'm making fun of Texans, go ahead.
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Trick on Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:34 pm

. Is it ironic that Texas has led the way in wind energy?
yes it’s true that the Rockefellers gone green for a long time now. but still Texas is theUS biggest oil pumper state, the dynastic Bushes are still heavily into the black gold in Texas(and elsewhere)....Sorry for the grassroots affected negatively by the barons oily fingers
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Trick on Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:33 pm

From today’s Swedish state news agency..

Wooden towered wind turbines.
Sweden leads again(my comment) 8-) Sweden to be the first in mass production of wooden towers for wind turbines
The carbondioxid release will be lowered by 30% if towers are made of wood rather than steel it is said...
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Steve James on Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:16 am

Trick wrote:From today’s Swedish state news agency..

Wooden towered wind turbines.
Sweden leads again(my comment) 8-) Sweden to be the first in mass production of wooden towers for wind turbines
The carbondioxid release will be lowered by 30% if towers are made of wood rather than steel it is said...


Ah yes, how do they do it? They live near the Arctic circle; it's dark half the year, and they use wind turbines!!! How do they make it through the Winter? Damn, they even use solar. Ok, I have Norwegian friends, so I know more about there. I never heard anyone say there was a blackout. Ok, Norway produces oil, but also produces some of the best wind turbines and highest quality silicon solar cells.

Um, of course, patriot that I am, I know the US can produce as good or better. But, pessimist that I am, I'm sure China will beat us to it simply because there are politicians with interests that make them oppose "green" industries. China doesn't have that hindrance. The Gov of Texas, for ex., was claiming last night that the problems in Texas were the result of wind turbines freezing and solar panels being useless, and he said it was a warning against going green.

The situation in Sweden and Norway show how ironically wrong-headed that view is. The turbines can work in the winter, and it's the gas and coal facilities (producing 75-90% of energy) that really failed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrK60bUqc-4
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Steve James on Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:18 am

Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, Texas, put on Facebook: “The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!... If you are sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! [sic]…. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the FEW will work and others will become dependent for handouts…. I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!... Bottom line quit crying and looking for a handout! Get off your ass and take care of your own family!” “Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish [sic],” he said.

After an outcry, Boyd resigned.


I wonder how many other mayors feel that way about the people who voted for him? I don't think the problem is a "socialist" government. People will expect their government to provide for them specifically when there's a disaster.
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Steve James on Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:33 am

Meanwhile, Sen. Cruz of Texas is seen on his flight to Cancun. Viva Mexico!

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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby bailewen on Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:14 am

roger hao wrote: Is that what is stimulating the animosity towards Texas? Because they
Did not spend money to deal with a once in a hundred years weather event?

You suck at math.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/17 ... -failures/
In 2011, Texas faced a very similar storm that froze natural gas wells and affected coal plants and wind turbines, leading to power outages across the state.

Do you guys go and make fun of people that get flooded out after building in flood
zones?

um...well duh. Of course we do. Well I do. I mean, yeah.
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby bailewen on Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:20 am

Oh yeah, and I also make fun of them for their goofy deregulation fetish.

Texans pay way more for electricity than folks who get their power from regular old govt utilities. At least that's what that radical leftist pulication, the Wall Street Journal says.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-elec ... 1614162780
From 2004 through 2019, the annual rate for electricity from Texas’s traditional utilities was 8% lower, on average, than the nationwide average rate, while the rates of retail providers averaged 13% higher than the nationwide rate, according to the Journal’s analysis.

The total bill for deregulation was approximately 28 Billion dollars in additional costs for electrical power since 2004.

So yeah. Making fun.

just for the heck of it, here's another 5 similar storms in the past 50 or 60 years.

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/texas/disasters-in-tx/
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:10 am

In addition to Omar's corrective, to claim that this is a once in a 100 year event is to completely ignore the well documented increase in extreme weather in recent years. It's only going to get worse, too.
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby roger hao on Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:46 am

Yeah? Have you ever heard of the 100 year flood plain?
So you are refuting the once in a hundred years because of something
that hasn't happened yet but trends show it will? OK
Of course there are disasters in Texas - but these generalizations include all disasters.
I am talking about freezing windmills. It is actually 72 years. 1949.
And please - don't point to the panhandle because that is one cold place in the winter.

The Coldest Night in Texas History

February 1899 was a very cold month, thanks in part to a bitterly cold outbreak from the 11th through the 13th. In fact, nothing in the history of Texas quite compares to February 12th 1899.

Some of the coldest weather to ever hit Texas occurred on February 12th of that year. The lowest temperature ever recorded in the state occurred at Tulia in Swisher County in the extreme southern Texas Panhandle. The thermometer dropped to 23 degrees below zero. However, there were unofficial reports that were even colder. Low temperatures of 30 degrees below zero were measured that night at Wolf Creek and at a site southeast of Perryton, both in Ochiltree County in the northern Panhandle. This cold air spread throughout the state with reports of a thin layer of ice coating most of Galveston Bay.

The all-time record low temperature that was established at Tulia was tied years later when Seminole, in Gaines County in West Texas, reported a temperature of 23 degrees below zero on February 8, 1933.

Many Texas cities established all-time record low temperatures In February 1899. Below is a list of the record lows at various cities across the state.



Abilene.............9 below zero...set in 1947

Amarillo...........16 below zero...set in 1899

Austin..............2 below zero...set in 1949

Beaumont……..10 degrees......set in 1906

Brownsville........12 degrees......set in 1899

Corpus Christi.....11 degrees......set in 1899

But - if you just wait there is another phase coming in a week or so.
There was damage to the refinery equipment and they are waiting for a good
time to shut it down. We will still be better off then Cali or up North because
the fuel prices there will really go up - if not high already. I am paying $2.09 for regular right now. when I start paying $3.49 people in La and similar locations will
be paying $4.99/gal.
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby roger hao on Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:04 am

Omar is not reading correctly -

Texans pay way more for electricity than folks who get their power from regular old govt utilities. At least that's what that radical leftist pulication, the Wall Street Journal says.

Texas rate 2019 average $11.67

10 states with the highest residential electricity rates
State
Rate (cents/kWh)

Hawaii
28.84
Connecticut
21.41
Rhode Island
23.58
Vermont
19.68
Alaska
22.53
New Hampshire
19.20
California
22.26
New York
18.91
Massachusetts
22.10
Michigan
16.43
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby Steve James on Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:11 am

I am talking about freezing windmills.


The problem is that the problem was the freezing gas refineries, and gauges that froze at coal and even nuclear plants. If "windmills" produced 25% of Texas's power, what happened to the other 75% that failed? Why weren't they prepared?

Wind turbines work in arctic conditions. Severe --even once in a generation-- weather events are predictable. When the weather man says it's going to be cold, it's time to winterize.

Anyway, suppose next year, the meteorologists say predict that a severe winter storm is coming in two weeks. I'd guess that the new energy management will make sure that all their facilities will continue to function. Scientists can make helicopters fly on Mars, after all.
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Re: Texas weather reminiscent of a movie

Postby roger hao on Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:20 pm

No - the problem is that Omar is talking thru his hat. ( old Texas saying LOL )
Now you are too Steve.

Well if it is any consolation to you - being half right about your last post -
New Yorkers ( and the rest of the country ) will be sharing in the cost soon at the pumps. Word is that the damage at the refineries did not have a quick fix. There will be a hard shut down in a week or so to replace some essential parts. That should bring about some increase in fuel prices.
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