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History - Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby gzregorz on Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:50 pm

Watch "'Exterminate All the Brutes' explores European colonial oppression" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/j32h55bfVlA
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Steve James on Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:13 pm

Some might not want to watch.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby wayne hansen on Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:49 pm

Another good one is the one by Sam neill on Cook.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Trick on Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:27 am

Based on Sven Lindqvists book with the same name. Sven Lindqvist had an “privileged” upbringing, he could early on travel and explore, Latin America, Africa and East Asia as examples, something that probably would not be possible for him to do if it wasn’t for the colonialism that had forced open the doors to those continents...
I’m not really criticizing him for his outspoken criticism of colonialism, he had some good thoughts and sayings...
Maybe saying his ability to go on far away adventure travels was because he was privileged is wrong (he is kind of saying in one of his works that he didn’t had an privilege upbringing, but that’s probably because of him possessing the moody mood of the (in)famous Swedish “Svårmod” that steam from something much deeper)
However as a Swede(Scandinavian) he also had an inborn explorer adventurist nerve(which also steam from the same deep well as from where “Svårmodet” is born)......If he would have lived during the Viking ages he probably would have set sail and established routes to far away lands for later colonialists to follow...

About the “European” colonialism it kind of was foretold of in the legend of Zeus and Europa..where she is lead by the white bull(Zeus) to far away lands...
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby gzregorz on Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:32 pm

Steve James wrote:Some might not want to watch.



True that.

Many who need to see it won't watch it.

I found the Louisiana Purchase and the Haitian Revolution very interesting. Something not taught in US history. I can remember teachers having us contemplating why Napoleon sold the US the Central states yet we were missing a big chunk of history. We were told Napoleon needed the money to fight the English which perhaps true isn't the.whole story.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby gzregorz on Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:32 pm

https://youtu.be/dQ4r3Qdrqmo

Another short video by the creator.

He discusses the three books his 600 year documentary is based off of.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Steve James on Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:46 pm

gzregorz wrote:
Steve James wrote:Some might not want to watch.


I found the Louisiana Purchase and the Haitian Revolution very interesting. Something not taught in US history.


Well, when it comes to "American" (aka U.S.) history, most people won't pay much attention to the Haitian Revolution or the French Revolution. They'll have to hear about the Louisiana Purchase and the Lewis & Clark expeditions as part of the story of US growth and Manifest Destiny. The relation between Haiti and the US doubling in size is generally not considered important.

Btw, Haiti helped finance Simon Bolivar and the wars of independence in South America. When Bolivar was successful in Venezuela, slavery was abolished there. So, it became the second country in the Americas --after Haiti-- to abolish the slave trade.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Trick on Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:21 pm

New York, New York -

“New York “the greatest slave mart in the world.””

“'Cargo' was delivered to the southern states and the West Indies, but much of the shipping originated in New York City—in the abolitionist North.”

https://www.history.com/news/us-illegal ... -civil-war
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Steve James on Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:49 am

Yeah, the only thing the article didn't mention was that slavery was abolished in NY, but it didn't stop people from participating in the lucrative slave trade. Though, it was technically "illegal."

Hey, when you hear the term "Wall Street," consider who "built" it and where the materials came from. But, this was all striclty "legal." https://www.theroot.com/how-slave-labor ... 1790895122

And, even though the Brits produced the most ardent abolitionists, they also produced some of the biggest financiers and insurers of slavery. https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/i ... 572859.htm

Well, it's never been about black and white, just about green. Other colors were just used as excuses.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby gzregorz on Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:48 pm

I told my British friend about the series and he openly admits that in English schools colonialism of Africa is completely brushed over as a non-event.

The drawing up of borders between European powers without any regard to who lives there is why many African countries have trouble today.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Steve James on Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:58 pm

The drawn borders in Europe (and Asia) are still causing problems.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby gzregorz on Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:05 am

Watching a discussion with Rauol Peck and two other speakers. Dunbar-Ortiz is a professor at the college I went to. Unfortunately she wasn't there at that time

Watch "Exterminate All the Brutes Q&A with Raoul Peck" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/w7OQ_Yn8ptI

I think Rauol puts it best when he says it is not really about race it is about who held the power. The way I see it obviously those who held the power decided to use race to keep that power structure in place.

I wish I never had to think about race. But the fact is as Rauol states if we do not start our understanding of US history (or world history) on the massacre of the natives, of building a nation on African slavery, of invading and taking what was Mexico and both limiting and stopping immigration of people from Asia we will never understand this country (or the world) today.
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Steve James on Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:29 am

I think Rauol puts it best when he says it is not really about race it is about who held the power. The way I see it obviously those who held the power decided to use race to keep that power structure in place.


Well, it wasn't a decision. The idea of what "Race" meant was a creation. I.e., it wasn't simply saying that various peoples had different skin tones, hair textures, or eye colors (in general). In the early British colonies (pre 1670s), there weren't any laws concerning "race." People of different colors married, though as in Europe it was a matter of class. So, at that time, there were many marriages between Black people and Irish and Indians. Laws prohibiting these unions had to be enacted, and along with them came more laws based on race.

The reason was simple, and it wasn't because of "race." There wouldn't be the need for a law against teaching a slave to read if slaves weren't capable of learning to read. There wouldn't be laws preventing people from owning a business if they weren't capable. But, what race was presented to mean is that certain races can do certain things and certain races can't. Like in the video; basically there are the "civilized" races, the "semi-civilized," and the primitives. The primitives, according to the racialists, are in a process of inevitable eradication. So, to them, there's no sin in helping them along, by benign neglect (ghetto) or more active means.

Hey, that's exactly what the English said/meant about the Irish, and the Nazi Germans said/meant about the Jews, when they spoke of "race."

Have you ever heard of the HIghland Clearances (since it is Scottish Heritage Month). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances
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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby gzregorz on Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:48 pm

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Re: Exterminate All The Brutes

Postby Quigga on Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:33 am

There's a passage in the Dao De Jing that goes like:


If a country is governed wisely,
its inhabitants will be content.
They enjoy the labor of their hands
and don't waste time inventing
labor-saving machines.
Since they dearly love their homes,
they aren't interested in travel.
There may be a few wagons and boats,
but these don't go anywhere.
There may be an arsenal of weapons,
but nobody ever uses them.
People enjoy their food,
take pleasure in being with their families,
spend weekends working in their gardens,
delight in the doings of the neighborhood.
And even though the next country is so close
that people can hear its roosters crowing and its dogs barking,
they are content to die of old age
without ever having gone to see it.

http://thetaoteching.com/taoteching80.html

Which translates to me as... Don't be nosy. Mind your own business. There is no true social justice for all as some might envision. If justice is enacted, there need to be those that feel they're being treated unjust. Enforcing one's perspective of justice thus only serves to create more tension in society, not less. Try to make everyone and everything equal and you'll witness stagnation for some time, then intense unrest as the stored dynamic potential break free once more.

Dao cultivated in upper dantian
De cultivated in middle dantian
Jing cultivated in lower dantian
Together they are the real way

How do you want to give each culture's history the same recognition? You can't. Not everyone's group was equally important in building our modern, globalized civilization. If one group was capable enough to exploit the other, what were the differences? The one's counting on their good hearts to survive always die first.

Every group wants to push their narrative as most important, competing with others instead of living alongside and accepting our differences.

Our peace is very fragile and it won't last much longer... All because people feel disadvantaged, feel undervalued, feel misrepresented in public dialogue.

You want to help the community? Get together and create a church of your own beliefs. What do you belief in? Killing, stealing, dealing drugs, civil unrest? Or helping one another, trying to feed one another, setting examples for each other? What would motivate people outside of your community more to help you?

I pulled these words out of my arse. Really caring about any of this is way too exhausting. Who do you think you are that you can create vast societal change? Who do you think cares about your so called cultivated, intellectual opinion of the world? Highly esteemed like steam from cow's shit raising in winter.

Explain one human and you explain the world.

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