Russia Ukraine Situation

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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby windwalker on Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:05 am

wiesiek wrote:haha, Opinion?, let it be;
do you really think, that Putin would be attack country which posses nuclear weapon?


An interesting question.
One might think not....



Acting as a person maybe not...
Acting as the leader of a country he may not have a choice...


Can we say of the state or nation, as we do of
the individual, that it ought to do or abstain from anything?

Is there anywhere to be found a moral code for nations
corresponding to the moral law to which the individual conscience
bows? .


This is the question which I purpose to consider here:

comparing national with individual morality, and asking in what sense states may be said to be under moral obligation-
to have duties to their citizens or to other states

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/2375489.pdf

The problem at this time "MAD "

seems to be, being reconsidered by some in the west feeling its survivable ...



The US used atomic weapons the only country in the history of the world to do so against Japan.

Was it justified ? :-\
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Giles on Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:24 pm

windwalker wrote:People who are truly "humble" mostly never feel the need to mention it... :-\


Yeah, well I normally wouldn't either, only under these special circumstances, since I am extremely humble. People come from all over to learn humility from me, and they're prepared to pay high prices because they recognize the outstanding nature of my humility.
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Quigga on Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:23 am

No, I'm the most humble one. Now if you would hand over that title, this would really show your humbleness and maybe give you another shot at it.
I hope I didn't mess everything up in my youthful confused fervor - can you forgive me?
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby wiesiek on Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:39 am

windwalker wrote:
Quigga wrote:Ok all of you smart guys


Buddhists believe in the cycle of samsara , which is the cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth.

This means that people will experience suffering many times over.

All of the things a person goes through in life cause suffering and they cannot do anything about it.

Instead, they have to accept that it is there.


yup,
this is why, I decided do not return this time O:)
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Quigga on Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:56 am

Apparently I decided to come back because of that and show others how they can ease their individual suffering :-)

But yeah, it's nice in the afterlife. After you made some considerable progress across lifetimes, you can enjoy a nice vacation there. Until you say, based on your own choice as always, it's time to come back...

The sad truth: there is no escape. I looked far and wide. Believing one can escape the cycle permanently is just ignorance and wishful thinking, further avoidance of suffering instead of embracing 8-) ;D
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby jimmy on Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:15 am

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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Quigga on Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:32 am

Could be that I thoroughly miscalculated and talking out of my ass :D
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby wiesiek on Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:59 am

uhm,
on the end YOU only decided,
bhodisatving is a very thankless job, you may show everything to the death, but nobody will really , fully understand,
`cause
understanding manifest itself in cooperation...

speakin` about vacation - I desperately need it -whiteflag-
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby wiesiek on Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:32 pm

It fits this and today threads:

..."W rozmowie z ukraińską telewizją Espreso TV Radosław Sikorski stwierdził, że Zachód może przekazać Ukrainie broń atomową, ponieważ Rosja naruszyła ustalenia memorandum budapesztańskiego. .."

Czytaj więcej na https://wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/r ... gn=firefox

translation:
In an interview with the Ukrainian television Espreso TV, Radosław Sikorski said that the West could hand over nuclear weapons to Ukraine because Russia violated the provisions of the Budapest Memorandum.
.....
Sikorski was in Polish Government before present "team of guys".
Now he is in Euro Parliament.
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Quigga on Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:20 am

The severity of the situation is not to be underestimated. Giving a child a gun? What could go wrong. I like my rum a bit too much and want as little shit to escape my lips as possible.

Yahwe - I am - ok that's cool. Some parts I'm not still - that's ok cool too.
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby wiesiek on Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:35 am

problem is, that of our world biggest children got it already :-\
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Bao on Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:35 am

Speaking about children...

People ask why Russians supports Putin's special military operation. This video shows exactly why.

it represents what Russians have known, watched happening and heard from witnesses fleeing from Donbas to Russia since 2014.
No, it's not propaganda. It's reality.

How do children grow up in Donbas? (Length: approx. 6 min. Filmed in Luhansk 2021)
https://youtu.be/4szBCMlLdB4
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Giles on Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:54 am

Bao wrote:People ask why Russians supports Putin's special military operation. This video shows exactly why.


Yes, yes! On the nail! You actually seriously use the term "special military operation" and studiously avoid the term "war" (not to mention "invasion"). If a picture paints a thousand words, then sometimes so does a choice of euphemism. Thank you for being so enlightening at this essential level.
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby windwalker on Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:24 am

Giles wrote:
Bao wrote:People ask why Russians supports Putin's special military operation. This video shows exactly why.


Yes, yes! On the nail! You actually seriously use the term "special military operation" and studiously avoid the term "war" (not to mention "invasion"). If a picture paints a thousand words, then sometimes so does a choice of euphemism. Thank you for being so enlightening at this essential level.


You do know the difference's between a war, and "special military operation" don't you ?

Kinda like

police action,

isolated military undertaking that does not require a declaration of war.
Police action is intended to respond to a state that is in violation of international treaties or norms or
that has engaged in or has imminently threatened an act of aggression.



The US seems to have a lot of police actions around the world
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Giles on Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:04 pm

Thank you, too. Your own words and arguments render any further contribution on my part superfluous. Good man.
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