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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby wiesiek on Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:56 am

oki, Steve
You may call it >undercover<, > hidden <, >under the skin<, or something similar,
but
whole word is affected on much higher rate, than during "local conflicts" , constantly jerking our planet from II WW time...
in addition,
today war arsenals are quite different, - aka my bank account example, not to mention new generations of viruses (virtual and real), mass propaganda, enemy deeep undercover, etc.
Russia/Ukraine is just "old fashioned" visible symptom.
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby windwalker on Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:36 am

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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Quigga on Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:01 am

Humanity may not be forced towards complete liberation from self imposed suffering. Either they willfully accept the teachings and ease their own suffering over time, or they won't. It's not for me or anyone else to decide.

The teachings of the Buddha are still circulating. Are people even ready from an evolutionary standpoint to live in a different system or will they continue slaughtering simply out of boredom?

The amount of money and power that's invested to keep the status quo, and to move us towards something that's even worse for karmic liberation, isn't to be underestimated.
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby Quigga on Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:02 am

Greed, ignorance, hate
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Re: Russia Ukraine Situation

Postby windwalker on Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:06 am

Peacedog wrote:I don't think it is so much an issue of Russia losing as simply running out of the stuff to fight the war with.

Their economic situation is pretty precarious right now and considering the age of a lot of the equipment they are throwing at the conflict it is pretty clear they are highly logistically stressed. At what point do they simply run out of artillery shells and tube rockets?

They will lose most of their commercial air/airlift in the next year as well due to the embargo on repair parts for all the Airbus/Boeing fleet. The old Soviet fleet of aircraft is all but dead and rapidly aging out. Not that they even have the ability to restart production lines to regenerate any of it in the first place.

A bigger issue is, what happens if they simply stop fighting? Russia absolutely lacks the ability to occupy the Ukraine wholesale. So, I'm not sure what winning looks like in that context.

About half of their oil production is going offline in the next 12 months if the big Western oil companies don't come back.

Even at the cut rate prices the Russians are selling petroleum to third party countries, I'm not sure their economy works at all with that big a loss in capacity.



Russia running out of "stuff" ok ;D

Always find comments like these interesting


Unfortunate for the Ukrainians caught up in a proxy war.

The US might run of out Ukrainians before it is unable to supply them with it's stuff from military reserves meant to defend
the US...at some point this will, if not already become a national security issue.


The Capacity of the West’s Industrial Base

The winner in a prolonged war between two near-peer powers is still based on which side has the strongest industrial base.
A country must either have the manufacturing capacity to build massive quantities of ammunition or have other manufacturing industries that can be rapidly converted to ammunition production.

Unfortunately, the West no longer seems to have either.


The initial stockpile in February 2022 is unknown, but considering expenditures and the requirement to hold substantial stockpiles back in case of war with NATO,
it is unlikely that the Russians are worried.

In fact, they seem to have enough to expend operational-level cruise missiles on tactical targets. The assumption that there are 4,000 cruise and ballistic missiles in the Russian inventory is not unreasonable.

This production will probably increase despite Western sanctions. In April, ODK Saturn, which makes Kalibr missile motors, announced an additional 500 job openings. This suggests that even in this field, the West only has parity with Russia.


The US government has always lowballed this number. From the Vietnam era to today, small arms plants have shrunk from five to just one.

This was glaring at the height of the Iraq war, when US started to run low on small arms ammunition, causing the US government to buy British and Israeli ammunition during the initial stage of the war.

At one point, the US had to dip into Vietnam and even Second World War-era ammo stockpiles of .50 calibre ammunition to feed the war effort.

This was largely the result of incorrect assumptions about how effective US troops would be. Indeed, the Government Accountability Office estimated that it took 250,000 rounds to kill one insurgent.

Luckily for the US, its gun culture ensured that small arms ammunition industry has a civilian component in the US.

This is not the case with other types of ammunition, as shown earlier with Javelin and Stinger missiles.

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