Hunger stones

[Steve James]

There are several major droughts going on. They're calling it a megadrought in the US, and they'll be cutting back water supply to states (and Mexico). But, these hunger stones are interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jVho4NPfyA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H54N1M4pPMM

Let's hope it doesn't get worse.

[greytowhite]

Huzzah global warming!

We just got put on Tier 2 water restrictions for the State of Arizona.

[Steve James]

Yeah, specifically the melting glaciers in Europe. In the US, it's the lack of rain -where it's supposed to rain, and flooding in places where it usually doesn't rain.

All the human problems are solvable, but every solution costs, and no one wants to pay.

[Quigga]

*people aren't yet ready to pay. Maybe they need some more suffering

[Quigga]

Like debt collectors lol

[everything]

Huzzah global warming!

We just got put on Tier 2 water restrictions for the State of Arizona.

What's in the Tier 2?

It seems like people leave California and move to AZ and TX, where there is still megadrought. Are they all ignoring the megadrought? It seems like it.

[everything]

[quote="Steve James"]There are several major droughts going on. They're calling it a megadrought in the US, and they'll be cutting back water supply to states (and Mexico). But, these hunger stones are interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jVho4NPfyA

Carved in 1904? Fascinating to see the warning appearing nearly 120 years later.

These tree rings reveal 30 year mega droughts in Australia in the 1760s and the 1830s
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-26/ ... /100160174

[yeniseri]

Yeah, specifically the melting glaciers in Europe. In the US, it's the lack of rain -where it's supposed to rain, and flooding in places where it usually doesn't rain.

All the human problems are solvable, but every solution costs, and no one wants to pay.

Within the last 2 decades, things have become so politicized that even politicians (of a certain ilk) tell the citizenry that they should not believe the rhetoric (in this case climate change ) and ignore it.
There have been a few politicians who have even suggested building a "new infrastructure" and their colleagues have not only voted down these infrastructure projects but disparaged them through conspiracy theories through alternative entertainment resources masquerading as news. If this is where we are at, yes, we can only look forward to doom along with a dystopian society grounded in lies and laws passed to truly destroy humanity.

Recently watched BBC - India and the Himalyan plate is losing so much snow that in a few years erosion and disasters affecting that plateau will show itself on those downstream from the summit!

[everything]

we seem to be the only species both smart and stupid enough to cause self-extinction.

pandas seem to not want to reproduce, but they aren't destroying their own habitat to the point of self-extinction.

[Steve James]

We're the only species that can prevent its extinction. The problem is that the same qualities we've developed to make us successful have meant that we don't contribute much positively to our environments and are no longer a symbiotic part of the ecology. But, we're not the cancer Agent Smith asserted either. At least, we don't have to be.

[Steve James]

Quand il pleut,...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5UbqkLM4gQ

[everything]

did we cover this one yet?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JIOZxTVpzs

[Steve James]

Cloud seeding only works when there are clouds (i.e., water vapor). I think you posted something about how Andean peoples are catching water in one of the driest places on the planet. A similar technique is being used in the Sahara. In this case, they need wind and fog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxRONAZoMDk

[everything]

yes, I think the cloud tech is for when there are clouds but ironically little rain. the fog nets are for the fog/mist, but not enough water to get for the ground/crops. similar that way, I suppose.

I don't know if these things are improving and gaining more adoption. All the news I can find on youtube is just "the West has a mega drought and Lake Mead is nearing dead pool status" but no news on solution propagation.

Tucson has been installing swales (cut outs in the curbs and native plants help catch rainwater to "store" in the ground). https://www.tucsonaz.gov/newsnet/green- ... ines-video

[Steve James]

Tucson is a hip city . Afa water, it's everywhere, just not accessible in the same way. Imo, we just have to accept that climate patterns are changing. The problem is going to be our ability to adapt, and those adaptations might lessen our negative affects.

But, like yeniseri says, the issue is so politicized that it's unlikely there'll be much cooperation. When one state's water starts to run out, it'll put them in competition with the states further up and down river. But, who's going to install fog-farms and give the water away?

And how about desalinization? They're expensive, and come with problems; for ex., what happens to the salt?