Human Trafficking in China

[gzregorz]

Interesting YouTube channel.



https://youtu.be/u0CgEibFKPQ

[yeniseri]

An Achiles heel for the public security ministries, the State Seurity bureaus and the ubiquitions 610 Security Ministry!
So much for cameras knowing it is used to suppress "minorities in the Western provinces. 610 Bureau is used to catch qigong citizens practiving while the lives of the missing citizens is worth nothing meaning searches are not mounted to find them.

[gzregorz]

Yeah, I don't know how accurate the reporting is but I have heard that when people report kidnapped children to the police that little is done. I hear that this is partly because the authorities like to promote the idea of a safe and secure society.

[Giles]

Yeah, I don't know how accurate the reporting is but I have heard that when people report kidnapped children to the police that little is done. I hear that this is partly because the authorities like to promote the idea of a safe and secure society.

I have no connections to China so I can't add anything there in concrete terms, but the tendency to fudge crime stats certainly seems to be a characteristic of Communist societies/authorities. When the 'German Democratic Republic' (i.e. 'East Germany') was still in existence, the state regularly manipulated the crime statistics downwards for political reasons, to make it appear that crime in the GDR was very low in general terms - and above all much lower than in the Federal Republic of Germany ('West Germany')! This was in line with the ideological narrative that in an enlightened 'socialist' society, crime just simply had to be lower than in a comparable capitalist society. In retrospect about the only category of crime that really was significantly lower than in the FRG was theft. That's because there was, basically, a lot less stuff to steal. And nobody was actually starving (at that level the economy worked okay), so people didn't really have to steal food.

[everything]

fudge stats

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[origami_itto]

Yeah, I don't know how accurate the reporting is but I have heard that when people report kidnapped children to the police that little is done. I hear that this is partly because the authorities like to promote the idea of a safe and secure society.

I have no connections to China so I can't add anything there in concrete terms, but the tendency to fudge crime stats certainly seems to be a characteristic of Communist societies/authorities. When the 'German Democratic Republic' (i.e. 'East Germany') was still in existence, the state regularly manipulated the crime statistics downwards for political reasons, to make it appear that crime in the GDR was very low in general terms - and above all much lower than in the Federal Republic of Germany ('West Germany')! This was in line with the ideological narrative that in an enlightened 'socialist' society, crime just simply had to be lower than in a comparable capitalist society. In retrospect about the only category of crime that really was significantly lower than in the FRG was theft. That's because there was, basically, a lot less stuff to steal. And nobody was actually starving (at that level the economy worked okay), so people didn't really have to steal food.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

fudge stats

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