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Postby origami_itto on Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:52 am

So this guy was raised in Singapore and speaks English with a Chinese accent.

https://youtu.be/HylaY5e1awo
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby Bao on Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:21 pm

Here, in this video you have a Caucasian Chinese, from a Chinese minority that looks EXACTLY like a Western guy. With blond, a bit reddish hair. Looks like an Englishman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljsK4LpMeU
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby Dmitri on Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:39 am

Bao wrote:Here, in this video you have a Caucasian Chinese, from a Chinese minority that looks EXACTLY like a Western guy. With blond, a bit reddish hair. Looks like an Englishman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ljsK4LpMeU

I wouldn't call tatars "a Chinese minority"...
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby Steve James on Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:39 am

I wouldn't call tatars "a Chinese minority".


No one's a minority where they're in the majority.:) Tatars are a minority in Russia too.

Anyway, "Chinese" as an ethnicity and "Chinese" as having a passport from China are different forms of identity. Of course there are Caucasian Asians just as there are Caucasian Americans -i.e., from the Caucasus. They're a minority here too.:)

It would be interesting to ask that Tatar baker whether he feels Chinese or Caucasian. He said he doesn't even remember how to speak Tatar.
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby Dmitri on Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:47 pm

Seeing Slav/"European"-like appearance in a tatar is almost expected, and this particular guy is clearly from the former USSR where such cross-pollination would be significantly more common than, say, among Tibetans or most other ethnic groups in China.
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby yeniseri on Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:06 pm

China is a multi-ethnic nation (always has been ;D ) and many groups (though a minority i.e. numerical quantification) do often just explain that they are "Chinese" as opposed
to stating ethnic affiliation meaning the "tribal group" that they belong to. The Western provinces have elements of Kazakh, Uzbek, Uyghur and even Manchu amongst said provinces).
Keep in mind that there are nation state of Kazakstan, Uxbekistan, Tajikistan, etc where the majority group resided but spill overs due to boundry changes over the centuries that kept sizeable representation
depending on which nation tended to support them, provide sanctuary, etc and thus, many stayed in their respective country based on that treatment and the central government's position on their status.

At times, many families are trilingual due to family breakup (Russian, Dari, Chinese, Pushtun, Persian, etc) As an example, when Russia invaded Afghanistan, they used conscripts of Uzbek, Tajik, and Kazakh who,
over time became sympathizers with their Afghan cousins and joined resistance groups against Russia. Russia then began using more ethnic Russians due to conversions of the earlier conscripts.
No one is sure where Hazara are from but some state they maybe are remnants of Mongols who stayed in Afghanistan and became part of the cultural sphere. So in essence, they no longer knew the Mongol or Turkic language
and if they are recent migrants then they may have memory (depending on age) of Russian though their everyday language may be Dari or Pushtun.
In China, Uyghus are being forced to speak Chinese, denounce their religion and treated like aliens in their own homeland with Han people being sent to occupy their province through numerical representation and "dilute"
Uyghur representation since many are, and have been jailed, imprisoned,etc similar to the strategy of Han occupation of TIbet.
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby Bao on Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:48 am

yeniseri wrote:In China, Uyghus are being forced to speak Chinese, denounce their religion and treated like aliens in their own homeland with Han people being sent to occupy their province through numerical representation and "dilute"
Uyghur representation since many are, and have been jailed, imprisoned,etc similar to the strategy of Han occupation of TIbet.


The same old lies and anti-China propaganda.

However, there is a similarity to Tibet, just like in Xinjiang, the USA funded terrorism and caused the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians.

“ 337. Memorandum for the Special Group1
Washington, January 9, 1964.

Review of Tibetan Operations
1.
Summary—The CIA Tibetan Activity consists of political action, propaganda, and paramilitary activity. ”

….

The cost of the Tibetan Program for FY 1964 can be summarized in approximate figures as follows:

a.
Support of 2100 Tibetan guerrillas based in Nepal—$ 500,000
b.
Subsidy to the Dalai Lama—$ 180,000
c.
[1 line of source text not declassified] (equipment, transportation, installation, and operator training costs)—$ 225,000
d.
Expenses of covert training site in Colorado—$ 400,000
e.
Tibet Houses in New York, Geneva, and [less than 1 line of source text not declassified] ( 1/2 year )—$ 75,000
f.
Black air transportation of Tibetan trainees from Colorado to India—$ 185,000
g.
Miscellaneous (operating expenses of [less than 1 line of source text not declassified] equipment and supplies to reconnaissance teams, caching program, air resupply—not overflights, preparation stages for agent network in Tibet, agent salaries, etc.)—$ 125,000
h.
Educational program for 20 selected junior Tibetan officers— $ 45,000
Total—$ 1,735,000

4.
Coordination—This Tibetan operational program has been coordinated with the Department of State for a number of years. “

Etc.


https://history.state.gov/historicaldoc ... 60v19/d381
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby windwalker on Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:21 am

The same old lies and anti-China propaganda.

However, there is a similarity to Tibet, just like in Xinjiang, the USA funded terrorism and caused the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians.



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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby yeniseri on Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:08 pm

Bao wrote:
yeniseri wrote:In China, Uyghus are being forced to speak Chinese, denounce their religion and treated like aliens in their own homeland with Han people being sent to occupy their province through numerical representation and "dilute"
Uyghur representation since many are, and have been jailed, imprisoned,etc similar to the strategy of Han occupation of TIbet.


The same old lies and anti-China propaganda.

However, there is a similarity to Tibet, just like in Xinjiang, the USA funded terrorism and caused the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians.


There is no doubt that when USA became aware of China's strategy, they did fund operations using Kham as major base of operations but it is not a lie to say that Han directives were to imprison the people native to that part of China (example Tibet and now Xinjiang Province), force the Chinese language on them, strip them of their culture and religion while destroying their institutions. Calling out those who do evil is a prerequisite to acknowledge that something being done is unrighteous and allows change to happen, by force, if necessary.

Let the truth be told that theocracy benefitted those of the religious 'aristocracy' in TIbet and that many Tibetans outside of that order were seen as 'slaves' to the theocracy. China did a service to that sector and many were grateful when they were freed so it is a double edged sword, as it were, on all sides. Education and social class was determined by the religious establushment...sound familiar ???
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby vadaga on Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:48 am

back on OT I am trying to remember but there was a well known speaker at our high school back in the day who had grown up in China with first language Chinese... it wasnt Carma Hinton but someone of that generation.

Flip it about, one wouldn't bat an eye in the EU/US these days if a person from XYZ background spoke fluent English.
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby origami_itto on Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:35 am

vadaga wrote:back on OT I am trying to remember but there was a well known speaker at our high school back in the day who had grown up in China with first language Chinese... it wasnt Carma Hinton but someone of that generation.

Flip it about, one wouldn't bat an eye in the EU/US these days if a person from XYZ background spoke fluent English.

Okay I have been around the block, know a few facts so to speak...

The first time I met a fully ethnic Asian talking like a tenth generation American hick it took me a couple seconds to process.

Like imagine Jacky Chan in a cowboy hat with a perfect southern drawl.
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby windwalker on Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:25 pm

It is interesting


The guy as a good voice.

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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby Dmitri on Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:44 am

Mongolia getting stuck with Cyrillic alphabet must be the karmic payment for its 250-year yoke of the slavs a while back :D
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Re: Caucasian Asian

Postby yeniseri on Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:54 am

Dmitri wrote:Mongolia getting stuck with Cyrillic alphabet must be the karmic payment for its 250-year yoke of the slavs a while back :D


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They asked for it, whether they speak Persian, Turkish, Ukranian, Russian or otherwise since the new age creates its own image. Ukbekistan, Tajikistan with Hazaras and others straddling a multilingual metaverse. ???
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