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Yup, I saw this. So the Energy Department has virologists? Yeah, right.
That they would even come up with any kind of conclusion like what "most likely originated from a laboratory leak" makes no sense at all.
BTW US collected intelligence has made an official report and statement that there is no proof whatsoever of any Wuhan lab leak or that it originated in China. And that it most likely did not come from any when lab.
So obviously, the balloon, jabbering about covid etc are only ways to put more attention on China and less on ... things the US does "some other place" in the World that seems to not turn out very well for the US...
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Yup, I saw this. So the Energy Department has virologists? Yeah, right.
That they would even come up with any kind of conclusion like what "most likely originated from a laboratory leak" makes no sense at all.
BTW US collected intelligence has made an official report and statement that there is no proof whatsoever of any Wuhan lab leak or that it originated in China. And that it most likely did not come from any when lab.
So obviously, the balloon, jabbering about covid etc are only ways to put more attention on China and less on ... things the US does "some other place" in the World that seems to not turn out very well for the US...
It makes perfect sense....
"Garland Nixon,
"MISINFORMATION IS CREATED BY THE ACADEMIC/GOVERNMENT CONSENSUS"
As facts are allowed to come out or reveled , the narrative has to change..
One narrative the might explain a lot. The lab in China was doing work sponsored by the US that was not allowed to be done in the US because of what could happen, as probably did happen.
Lab leaks of viruses, have happened in all countries that have labs studying them.
Part of the rationale, for not allowing certain studies to be done in the "US " Using other countries as proxies to do the studies among other things
like "war" or blowing up undersea pipelines...
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is it really matter- laboratory or natural mutation? Our immune system should be nuf elastic, to handle both cases. If not, our species woudn`t survive so long.
wiesiek wrote:is it really matter- laboratory or natural mutation? Our immune system should be nuf elastic, to handle both cases. If not, our species woudn`t survive so long.
What is natural, in most cases can be adapted to in a natural way.
what is not natural, may have properties that a natural system is unable to overcome.
The virus, has properties that many researchers in the field suggested, was not natural , and would not occur naturally.
This information was labeled ""MISINFORMATION IS CREATED BY THE ACADEMIC/GOVERNMENT CONSENSUS". In other words by those who understood what might have happened having been part of the process.
The on going ""MISINFORMATION IS CREATED BY THE ACADEMIC/GOVERNMENT CONSENSUS" is even more pronounced with the vaccines
The first step in this process was to change the definition of what a vaccine was...
" That is, vaccines previously were definedby the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as inoculants that "produce immunity to a specific disease." But last September, as the failure of the COVID-19 vaccines to "produce immunity" was realized, the CDC changed the definition. Now the CDC defines a vaccine as "a preparation that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against diseases."
reflecting changes in how vaccines were made, that didn't work as advertised
"Usually, a vaccine uses a weakened or damaged version of a virus so that your body can have a “practice run” of fighting it. Your body will make antibodies that fight this weak form of the virus and thus will be able to recognize this same virus in the future and be able to quickly react to the real virus if ever exposed to it.
An mRNA vaccine works differently. Rather than inject a person with the actual virus, this type of vaccine instead injects the cells with some of the virus’s mRNA. This mRNA contains instructions on how to build “spike protein,” meaning the protein that is found on the spiky surface of a virus. This protein is harmless and has no ill effects on the body."
We have a virus, origins unknown, that they have to make an "instruction set" that tells the body how to fight the virus...
Every one has to get vaccinated, to protect those who are vaccinated from getting the virus they are vaccinated from, and from the vaccinated from spreading the virus they may have been infected by that they were vaccinated for...
What could go wrong
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natural or not, you see - this is the problem, viruses , `like or not, are the constantly mutating creatures. In such big amount of processes , on sub-mic., level, you can`not be sure , that labolatory combination will not happen "Outside", and in reverse, of c. so it`s really no matter how it gonna to work, if your system has no "headroom"- have to say >mate<.
fooling immune system? Well, I can only say, that it is nothing new in micro-word. Just look on hepatitis C, for ex., he is sitting in your liver for years, end you getting info on the end of the story- cancer ,and good by.
windwalker wrote: As facts are allowed to come out or reveled , the narrative has to change..
One narrative the might explain a lot. The lab in China was doing work sponsored by the US that was not allowed to be done in the US because of what could happen, as probably did happen.
What doesn't make sense is that it should have come from the Wuhan lab. If you know all facts around the lab, you would understand why it's virtually impossible.
Lab leak, invention or natural virus, what makes sense is that the US took it to Wuhan to infect people. It makes sense because if the economical war between the US and China, and the rise of China. The Covid-19 has a HIV sequence = Fort Detrick studied HIV viruses. Moderna created a corona Vaccine in 2019... etc etc... Much points to the US, the Wuhan bedtime story is easily refuted.
windwalker wrote:Lab leaks of viruses, have happened in all countries that have labs studying them.
SARS have leaked from a Chinese lab. How many lab accidents and leaks have happened in the US? Well, much much more and more often. Easy to google and see how US authorities complain about US labs and their mistreatment of routines and regulations. If it was a lab leak, the US is still much more likely than China.
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Thoughts on Tai Chi (My Tai Chi blog) - Storms make oaks take deeper root. -George Herbert - To affect the quality of the day, is the highest of all arts! -Walden Thoreau
What doesn't make sense is that it should have come from the Wuhan lab. If you know all facts around the lab, you would understand why it's virtually impossible.
Lab leak, invention or natural virus, what makes sense is that the US took it to Wuhan to infect people. It makes sense because if the economical war between the US and China, and the rise of China. The Covid-19 has a HIV sequence = Fort Detrick studied HIV viruses. Moderna created a corona Vaccine in 2019... etc etc... Much points to the US, the Wuhan bedtime story is easily refuted.
windwalker wrote:Lab leaks of viruses, have happened in all countries that have labs studying them.
SARS have leaked from a Chinese lab. How many lab accidents and leaks have happened in the US? Well, much much more and more often. Easy to google and see how US authorities complain about US labs and their mistreatment of routines and regulations. If it was a lab leak, the US is still much more likely than China.
you really need to check your biases, or at lest become aware of them....
As far as the lab "virtually impossible"
"Nestled in the hilly outskirts of Wuhan, the high-security bio-safety laboratory is Asia's first maximum security lab, housing more than 1,500 virus strains.
It has also been a source of concern for U.S. officials dating back at least two years.
Two State Department cables show that American embassy officials in Beijing made several visits to the research facility and sent two official warnings back to Washington in early 2018 about the lab’s inadequate safety measures. "
"The Wuhan bed time story".
Just the facts...
you don't know the "facts"
My point.
What is known has been obfuscated to fit a narrative by both the US and China.
Regardless of assigning blame it's important to know the origins of the virus in order to understand how either to prevent it from happening again or understand how to develop a better vaccine or treatment protocol.
Lab leaks in the US, in the normal corse of events cause laws to be enacted to prevent the leaks...
In so doing the research doesn't stop, it's just done in other countries...Like China, Ukraine...ect. Not known until, a Wuhan happens..or a war started by the US happens to cause the labs to be visible as a concern of what might happen to a bio lab during a war...like getting blown up...probably not a good thing.
What was promoted at the time
"In conclusion, all these specific features observed in SARS-COV-2 helps scientists to rule out the idea that this pandemic caused by the novel coronavirus is the result of a man-made action that could be either engineered in the laboratory or further created as a bioweapon out of conspiracy."
wiesiek wrote: ]natural or not, you see - this is the problem, viruses , `like or not, are the constantly mutating creatures. In such big amount of processes ,
The market area of Wuhan should be enough for US to realize that regardless of lab, seashore or market, public health ministries have the responsibility to pass on the information, the protocols and mitigation strategies to lessen the effect of spread. If the citizens refuse to take the precautions, then let Darwinian outcomes do their job. Disease surveillance is the name of the game and China has withheld information to the detriment of its own citizens. It's on them not US!
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