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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:57 am

California seems ok for the moment and through 3 months acc to drought.gov. I'm sure that will change.

El Nino supposedly will mean milder Atlantic hurricane season... who knows
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby Steve James on Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:26 am

The planet is a closed system. Extreme weather (water) in one place means extreme weather (drought) somewhere else. Droughts exacerbate and make conditions ripe for fires. So Cali is getting cooled by rain and Canada is burning. The only good signs are local. Otoh, imo, sooner or later, the effects have to affect you wherever you are. Last week a hurricane in the Cali desert; today a different hurricane in Texas. And, September is the beginning of hurricane season -even if it's milder than usual.

It's not clear if it's possible for humans to rebalance the system. It just has to play out. Fortunately, we're the adaptable species.
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:00 am

two hurricanes on either side of Florida right now.

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wonder if that's quite rare. looks like Idalia (on the Gulf side) will go through Florida. Franklin (in Atlantic) through Bermuda.
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby Steve James on Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:26 am

Officials in Louisiana are in a race against time as salt water from the Gulf of Mexico threatens drinking water supplies in New Orleans and its surrounding areas because of unusually low levels in the drought-addled Mississippi River.

New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell signed an emergency declaration Friday in response to concerns that salt water encroaching upriver could affect the availability of safe drinking water in the coming weeks.


Another consequence: ocean water pressure exceeds river (fresh water) pressure. Hopefully there won't be severe Gulf coast hurricanes this year.
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:16 am

oof. Great Lakes reverse migration time
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:58 am

I don't really understand El Nino, but it seems like they basically say that the Southeast/South of the USA could have a wetter winter. North/Northwest drier. Deserts more dry. More chance of flooding when it rains. But also that it's difficult to predict.
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:05 pm

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/12017813 ... ffers-hope

Here's something you don't hear much when it comes to climate change: hope.

Countries are setting records in deploying climate-friendly technologies, such as solar power and electric vehicles, according to a new International Energy Agency report. The agency, which represents countries that make up more than 80% of global energy consumption, projects demand for coal, oil and natural gas will peak before 2030.

While greenhouse gas emissions keep rising, the IEA finds that there's still a path to reaching net-zero emissions by 2050 and limit global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius, or 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit. That's what's needed to avoid the the worst effects of climate change, such as catastrophic flooding and deadly heatwaves.
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby Steve James on Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:39 am

NYC certainly isn't in drought today :)
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:11 pm

hope you're staying safe indoors there
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby Steve James on Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:31 pm

We're fine as far as floods, on the sixth floor. But, I just emailed the super that a sheetrock seam on my living room ceiling has a bubble. We put a bucket down just in case -because it means there's a leak on the roof somewhere. Oh well, this ain't bad at all compared to some situations. And this is what insurance is for :).
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby Kong Bao Long on Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:45 pm

I personally find the whole Climate Change Global catastrophe more than suspect, down right BS!

The Scientist declaration often cited as a "the professional scientific census of who's who in global climate change science.. stating mankind is at fault for the climate change.. was a petition in 1998 by Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.. it wasn't 30K of signatures, it turns out to be 3000 and many of the signatures of Doctors were not even scientist.

Objectively: if you understand just how little Co2 is in the atmosphere (they love to show you graphs.. but they never tell your in what relation Co2 is to other gases.) FOR THE RECORD... IT'S .04% (THAT'S 1/12th of a .5% percent) Yep you read that right....! Here is another... The sun's refracted heat on the surface of the Earth only penetrates the surface of the ocean around 10 mm. Yep you read that right also... The ocean's temperature is fluctuating because of higher than normal underwater Volcanic activity in the last few decades. THERE IS YOUR true cause for EL'Nino.

Did I mention that the oxygen we breath is produce by Photosynthesis!!!! A process by which plants use sunlight, water, and carbon dioxide to create oxygen and energy in the form of sugar. Let remove CO2 from the atmosphere? Ummmm NO! Did you know the planet has had long periods where the Co2 was much much higher, and all forms of life flourished.

I live in Michigan and right in the middle of Traverse bay, in 45 feet deep water...... is a 9,000 yr old Neolithic Stonehenge, it's real, it has Mastodons carved on them. Since there wasn't a combustion engine parked in everyone's garage... what caused lake Michigan to reses (for a period long enough to allow the building and worshiping of the Stonehenge?

The planet is covered in 2/3 of water... that leaves 1/3 being a land mass. Any idea of how much of that land mass humans occupy? You ready? About 1/9th. (that's 1/9th of the 1/3 land mass... think of that in terms of the total earth's surface. Are we human's really causing climate change? Really? Or is it related to the Sun's Solar activity; According to The Australian, a paper by 23 solar physics and climate science experts from 14 different countries, the 16 most prominent datasets of solar output show solar energy is more of a cause for global warming than carbon dioxide.

Ummmm?

Now in my opinion Human's are dirty pigs... without a doubt just looking at our oceans ... we got a pollution problem! That is not a Climate Catastrophize...

I'll leave you with this ...

Further proof is 2/3 of the worlds population (China, India, Russia etc ... there a whole lot of climate scientist in these counties ) have told the Paris Climate Accord... to pound sand!


Personally, I think the WEF and all those 1% of 1% who have amassed personal nation levels in wealth, and what they want to do to us... is much more dangerous, much more real, than the Climate Change hoax ... that they made up
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:37 pm

wut lol
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby Steve James on Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:40 pm

There's "climate change" and "no such thing as climate change" as ideologies, and then there are cities flooding, beaches eroding, glaciers melting, droughts, and fires. The change is where and when these things are happening, and that's real. So, saying it isn't "climate change" or due to it becomes irrelevant if farms are under water. Someone has to pay for the changes.

Imo, it was too late for people to mitigate these changes directly long ago. Reducing carbon through accords and regulations would cost consumers, and reduce oil company profits. People (politicians) who were against "climate change" were also for deregulating environmental protections that prevented drilling. On way of the other, the drilling is not going to be a problem.

Afa as countries not wanting to reduce emissions, those countries are also industrial giants who don't want to be limited by what European countries decide. That makes sense, just on a nationalistic front. Otoh, Brazilian loggers still want to cut down as much of the Amazon as possible in order to create ranches and plantations. When it comes to trying to limit carbon emissions, China has more electric vehicles than any country in the Paris Accord. India is the fifth largest producer of evs in the world. Just because these countries don't belong to EU/US accords doesn't mean they deny the effect humans have on the climate.

Like I said, call it climate change or not, it will definitely affect everyone globally one way or the other. And, dealing with it will cost at least as much as trying to mitigate or prevent it. Swiss glaciers lost 10% of their volume in the last 10 years. It doesn't matter what anyone calls it, scientist or not. Climate (i.e. weather patterns over time) is changing globally. Weather patterns in specific places are not the same as they were 30 years ago.

Afa the monied interests, the insurance companies are refusing to issue flood insurance in places where more flooding is expected (by scientists). People who live in areas that are suddenly fire prone sell their houses at a discount. Again, humans might have nothing to do with it; they'll just have to deal with it.
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby origami_itto on Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:42 am

So strange how "independent thinkers" always wind up with the same reactionary perspective and rhetoric that supports the monied interests of the status quo.
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Re: California suddenly not in drought

Postby everything on Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:26 am

everybody should theoretically be interested in the long term habitability of the planet. no need to be independent, monied, smart, or anything else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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