the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

nianfong wrote:

.Q. wrote:

Scientists agree that one big hiccup from our sun, and it's Goodnight Vienna for life on Planet Earth, ...
... but suggest that The Sun, ( and not human activity ) is the most likely source of climate change, and you are branded a heritic.

There's an issue w/ the logic here.
A CAN do B does not equal to A IS doing B. Also, assuming the Sun is the most likely source of climate change, it still does not affect whether human activity is ALSO causing climate change. It might, of course, affect the focus of your efforts to help alleviate the problem, which will probably involve a change in human activity anyway.

BTW: how do you directly quote someone using this new software? I didn't see a "reply" button.

use the "quote" button. just like the old software.

Walter Joyce wrote:

MikeC wrote:

Walter Joyce wrote:The fact that there are differing views on the environmental crisis is nothing new, but if you are going to put forth a proponent of your viewpoint, you might be better served to point to somene with a degree in Earth related science, and not an economist.

Or politicians for that matter. *cough*Al Gore*cough*

Funny, you were the first person to mention his name, at least I'm sure I haven't brought it up. The most recent information I received on the topic was a documentary done by scientists who are studying the REAL natural phenomenon of the melting of ice in the Antarctic region and its effects on the local species and their seasonal migration habits.

Mike Strong wrote:Nianfong,

Anyone who lived through the gas crisis of the 70's or anyone who has heard of it should have seen this coming, ...

.... oil prices, I mean.

I have my life set up to where even $8 a gallon gas won't hurt me directly, ...

... it will hurt my income and make everything else cost more, but as long as people want to drink, gamble, and have crazy causual sex, - I'll do okay.

And $ 8 a gallon gas is going to be what it take for inventers and producers to come up with something better.

They will come up with it because they will be rewarded for it...

... But if you take away their insentives to invent and produce, and compete- they will lay low, and let burocrats and the regulators fuck us all up the ass on the level playing feild of socialism.

MikeC wrote:
Speaking of gas and the economy...(from another post)

Thought you might like to read the following:


A little over one year ago:


1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;


2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;


3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.


Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:


1) Consumer confidence plummet;


2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;


3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);


4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate
(stock and mutual fund losses);


5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;


6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.


America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

steelincotton wrote:last time i looked the republicans have been in control of Washington for the last EIGHT YEARS!

When Dufus took office, a barrel of oil was $24.00, now it's over $125 and climbing by the minute..... Mission Accomplished George, Mission Accomplished. We have OIL men running the country god darn it! We've been duped.

MikeC wrote:
Yes, George Bush sets the price of a barrel of oil. Thanks for that tip.

MikeC wrote:

steelincotton wrote:last time i looked the republicans have been in control of Washington for the last EIGHT YEARS!

Congress is in control of Washington. Democratically controlled Congress.

When Dufus took office, a barrel of oil was $24.00, now it's over $125 and climbing by the minute..... Mission Accomplished George, Mission Accomplished. We have OIL men running the country god darn it! We've been duped.

Yes, George Bush sets the price of a barrel of oil. Thanks for that tip.


Mike

MikeC wrote:Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
...
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
...
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

MikeC wrote:Yes, George Bush sets the price of a barrel of oil. Thanks for that tip.

Darth Rock&Roll wrote:

MikeC wrote:

steelincotton wrote:last time i looked the republicans have been in control of Washington for the last EIGHT YEARS!

Congress is in control of Washington. Democratically controlled Congress.

When Dufus took office, a barrel of oil was $24.00, now it's over $125 and climbing by the minute..... Mission Accomplished George, Mission Accomplished. We have OIL men running the country god darn it! We've been duped.

Yes, George Bush sets the price of a barrel of oil. Thanks for that tip.


Mike

Mike, you are wrong. The president has veto power over congress and has demonstrably diminished them right up until the people said fuck that and whacked the republicans outta there.

George doesn't set the price of oil, but you can bet your ass he has crony-ism going on and when that is mixed with speculators possibly being involved in rigging the up costs, which by the way will be under investigation in the coming months. The Bush family is practically blood tied to the Saudi oil barons, tat is known and shown. I think they're right in their pockets and it's a mutual hand job scenario.

so, don't piss on our heads and tell us it's raining. The reps have fyucked over the people of america and the executive branch is doing some global ass fucking. Bush is a criminal in the eyes of many and he has made America a despised nation. A moniker they did not have under Clinton.

People world wide actually are quite open with their vitriol and hate of America now.

It's not American people, but it is George W. Bush and his pals that have made it so
If you can't see that glaring reality, then you simply can't see. .