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Glass Metals

Postby Muad'dib on Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:25 pm

you know you are a weapons dork, when the first thing you think of when you read this:

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/06/2 ... atoms.html

Is "Fuck, I hope that will make a badass sword". Because it will. Oh, yes, it will...
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby qiphlow on Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:36 pm

that's cool and all, but when the hell do we get our lightsabers?
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby Darth Rock&Roll on Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:26 pm

pfft, good luck. I'm still waiting on the jet pack and the flying car for cripes sake.

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Re: Glass Metals

Postby Muad'dib on Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:24 pm

Jetpack, we have. It's just nowadays refueling it will cost 10,000 USD.
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby Ian on Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:33 pm

Imagine how unstoppable I'll be when I get my hands on a glass sword and one of these:

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Re: Glass Metals

Postby Kevin_Wallbridge on Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:59 pm

Jet-man... my new hero.

Oh yah. glass swords = cool.
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby nianfong on Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:50 pm

amorphous metals already exist, and are being used for a select few consumer products around the world
http://www.liquidmetal.com/

they are amazingly strong, hard, and light. And are used like injection molding--though not quite to the same degree as plastic. kind of a hybrid between cast molding and injection molding. material is pretty expensive, but cheaper than forging steel. I doubt they hold an edge well.
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby Ian on Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:06 pm

Kevin_Wallbridge wrote:Jet-man... my new hero.


I'll say.

Must be difficult flying with such a hefty set of brass figs.
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby Muad'dib on Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:11 am

This isn't an amorphous metal fong, It's glass with the crystalline characteristics of metal. The link you sent is metal with the characteristics of glass (non-crystalline formation), which is one of the reasons it won't hold an edge.
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby edededed on Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:32 am

I just want a seven star staff. Anyone know of a good (non-toxic) mercury replacement?
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby Bill on Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:05 am

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You could use a lead slug, and maybe a spring to return it back to original position.
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby JonathanArthur on Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:51 am

i think encasing the mercury in a sealed section of metal tubing might work, although I wonder if the cane wouldn't split i when it strikes the floor.

if you come up with something let me know.

btw, i was told the chuan pu of the qi xing gun was available online. would you know where i might find it?
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby meeks on Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:04 pm

one method is to get a section of copper pipe, solder a cap on one end (solder it well!), pour the mercury in, then solder the other end shut.

then you tap that into a hollow staff
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Re: Glass Metals

Postby edededed on Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:06 pm

Hmm - is there no non-horribly-poisonous substitute for mercury, though? (Would hate to have to buy dozens of old thermometers and break them all to get it, too :D )

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Re: Glass Metals

Postby nianfong on Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:35 am

dan, per your article, the very last paragraph:
"Glassy metals probably will have much higher strength than a normal crystalline metal, improved corrosion resistance and they can produce lighter and stiffer components," O'Donnell said. "This research has helped identify the mechanism which will allow these metals to be able to make more easily."


note that the attractive forces between glass molecules are more likely that of molecular crystals--dipole attraction because the SiO2 molecule is polar. metallic bonds are different and I think more likely to hold an edge. from wikipedia, at the end of the entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystalline_solid

Crystal Particles Attractive Forces Melting point Other properties
Ionic Positive and negative ions Electrostatic attractions High Hard, brittle, good electrical conductor in molten state
Molecular Polar molecules London force and dipole-dipole attraction Low Soft, non-conductor or extremely poor conductor of electricity in liquid state
Molecular Non-polar molecules London force Low Soft, non-conductor or extremely poor conductor of electricity in liquid state
Network Atoms Covalent bonds Very high Very hard, non-conductor of electricity
Metallic Positive ions and mobile electrons Metallic bonds Fairly high Hard or soft, malleable and ductile, good electrical conductor
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