Is Obama a 'natural born' US citizen? (part 2)

[Darthwing Teorist]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/four-insane ... the-world/

[Michael]

FYI, looks like two more conferences in the Supreme Court on this topic on Jan. 9 and 16. I have no doubt he'll be inaugurated, but having three different justices review this and two of them prolong it is certainly melodramatic, if nothing else.

Eligibility remains focus of Supremes' conferences
Dispute posted on docket twice after Electoral College votes in

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84609

[Michael]

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

I have thoroughly examined the photographs that FactCheck published, and have subsequently found clear and irrefutable evidence of tampering with both the alleged COLB objects photographed and with the photos themselves. One of those COLB objects was, in fact, a printout of a forged document image with the Seal superimposed onto it for the final pictures.

[Walter Joyce]

Hmmmm, we go from one website analysis to another.

Could the fraud detector be a fraud himself?

http://hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?serendipity[action]=search&serendipity[searchTerm]=polarik

Didn't take me more than 5 minutes to find this.

[Michael]

At this point, I don't think it matters as far as Obama getting elected and inaugurated. We'll just have to wait and see if anything comes of it after he's been in office a while. Might be used to burn him later down the line...who knows?

What do you think about Biden, Powell, and many other top officials in the US and in other Western countries predicting a major "event" shortly after Obama is elected that will "test" him? Might be a bank holiday. Powell said it would be Jan. 21 or 22, but said he didn't know exactly what it would be. Wow, you can read the future and talk about it, but some of the details in the crystal ball are just a bit hazy, huh Colin?

[Darth Rock&Roll]

Michael. Are you afraid of Black People? Democrats? Both? I don't understand why you give this any credence at all considering the source and not to mention the single point of the source that only ebbs out to make it look as if there are more than one person and one publication who is perpetrating this embarrassment. It's nonsense and I would think you were intelligent enough to recognize that.

[Michael]

Oh yeah, I'm terribly afraid of the black hordes. Why go for the race issue? It's not relevant to me.

Obama's origins are interesting to me and not just his eligibility for citizenship. His entire history is interesting and since I'm sure he'll be the next Pres. of the USA, I'm quite curious about all of it. I don't know how much you know about Obama's history, but there are many things about him that are, uhm, new and surprising. It's very thread-worthy, IMO.

[Darth Rock&Roll]

Well, I've read his biography and am i the middle of Dreams from my Father...which I gotta say is dry.

there's plenty of more "interesting backgrounds" in the US senate and Congress than Obama though, that is for sure for sure. lol

Here's my point. That while it is unlikely that you have fears based on racist thinking, there is a huge chunk of that thinking that is driving the continued smears on Obama.
this one is a load of shit though and has been shown not only once but a few times that this is stupidity.

Now it is manifesting as aggressive stupidity. Which is really unbecoming of civilised minds. But I guess we have the misfortune of living in times fueled by aggressive stupidity.

[Michael]

Well I understand your point, but just because some people are smearing him doesn't mean everyone else should avoid the topic. Kudos to you for reading the book. I haven't read it, but just looking at his recent appointments says a lot. Hillary and Rahm and the AG appointment are anything but dry. Hillary, my goodness. Rahm is an Israeli citizen and the Attorney General to be was at the center of the cover up of Waco and OKC. It's all controversial from someone's perspective, but that's no reason to avoid it. I'll be looking forward to your book report

For fair and balanced research, you might want to read one of the three books from his major detractors: Jerome Corsi and Webster Tarpley, who wrote both of the following:
Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate (Apr. 2008) ISBN 0-930852-88-5.
Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography (Aug. 2008) ISBN 0930852818

Tarpley also wrote a biography of George H. W. Bush, Sr. you can read online for free.

[chud]

Here's my point. That while it is unlikely that you have fears based on racist thinking, there is a huge chunk of that thinking that is driving the continued smears on Obama.

I disagree. Berg, who brought one of the lawsuits, is a democrat and has shown no signs of being a racist.

This one is a load of shit though and has been shown not only once but a few times that this is stupidity.

The Supreme Court has chosen to review several of these suits regarding Obama's citizenship. Even if they decide in the end not to hear any of them, it is worth noting that they at least made it to review by the highest court in the land.

Now it is manifesting as aggressive stupidity. Which is really unbecoming of civilised minds. But I guess we have the misfortune of living in times fueled by aggressive stupidity.

As opposed to ad hominem attacks in which you accuse other forum members of being "afraid of black people".

[steelincotton]

For fair and balanced research, you might want to read one of the three books from his major detractors: Jerome Corsi and Webster Tarpley, who wrote both of the following:
Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate (Apr. 2008) ISBN 0-930852-88-5.
Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography (Aug. 2008) ISBN 0930852818

Tarpley also wrote a biography of George H. W. Bush, Sr. you can read online for free.

Regarding Corsi, I gotta laugh at the "fair and balanced" comment! Corsi a former "swiftboat for truth" member, is a well known liar, and has been proven so many times in print, as well as on TV. The guy is an obsessed whackjob if you ask me, and not a reliable source of credible data in any way.

On another note, I agree with Darth, racism is definitely behind this continuous ignorant attempt to discredit Obama. Get over it people. Hug a neighbor, shake a stranger's hand, help an old lady cross the street, but enough of this continued negative and racist ignorance!

Forget to add this link...
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... tchet.html

[Darth Rock&Roll]

Here's my point. That while it is unlikely that you have fears based on racist thinking, there is a huge chunk of that thinking that is driving the continued smears on Obama.

I disagree. Berg, who brought one of the lawsuits, is a democrat and has shown no signs of being a racist.

This one is a load of shit though and has been shown not only once but a few times that this is stupidity.

The Supreme Court has chosen to review several of these suits regarding Obama's citizenship. Even if they decide in the end not to hear any of them, it is worth noting that they at least made it to review by the highest court in the land.

Now it is manifesting as aggressive stupidity. Which is really unbecoming of civilised minds. But I guess we have the misfortune of living in times fueled by aggressive stupidity.

As opposed to ad hominem attacks in which you accuse other forum members of being "afraid of black people".

Berg's lawsuit was dumped was it not?

The Supreme court has been placed in a position by lawyers where shit has been laid in front of them taht they have to deal with whether they choose to or not,. It is unlikely they will bother with any of the shit after cursory reviews.

I made no such ad hominem attack I make a sarcastic implication and then clarified immediately in discussion with Michael. However, I do strongly infer that, much of the smearing of Obama, that always turns up SQUAT is founded deeply in racial hatred on a lot of stands and the trickle off of that in the "you are what you read" portion.

It is a failed attempt at producing a meme akin to "he's a muslim", "He's a socialist", "He's a babykiller" etc etc etc that people with dubious backgrounds quite often keep raising.

it's bullshit plain and simple.

[Michael]

Yeah, just to clarify, I didn't take any offense at Darth's comment and I understand what he's saying. My comments about Obama are all very specific and mostly about his policies and political choices, which have gone almost completely unanswered here for months.

[Darth Rock&Roll]

omfg Michael. Again with the Rense.

I challenge you to find anything beyond these fringe, jew baiting hate sites that has anything about this.
This is merely distraction and weak attempts by poor losers and racist fucks who are whining because they didn't get their bottle.

ridiculous and when the SCOTUS throws it out to the garbage where it belongs, I am sure there will be new attempts at deflection and not letting the administration do its job.

[DeusTrismegistus]

omfg Michael. Again with the Rense.

I challenge you to find anything beyond these fringe, jew baiting hate sites that has anything about this.
This is merely distraction and weak attempts by poor losers and racist fucks who are whining because they didn't get their bottle.

ridiculous and when the SCOTUS throws it out to the garbage where it belongs, I am sure there will be new attempts at deflection and not letting the administration do its job.

So if something isn't mainstream it can't be true