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Here is the criteria, all of which was met by Obama according to the FEC.
http://2008election.procon.org/viewreso ... nstitution

Nice response, Chris

Hey Darth, you're putting the cart before the horse. There were lots of people asking for that stuff all along and everyone kept saying, "He couldn't be in this position if he weren't a citizen, so your request is moot a priori." And they usually say it in a heavy, Italian accent, just like Bat Boy.

Anyway, this is a red herring. It's an issue that Obama somehow is able to skirt, so this is just BS to actually give him support at a time when they're ramrodding some heinous legislation through Congress.

Darth, my answer to your "why?" is "why not?".
Why not just provide this info and lay everything to rest?

...among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

I can go online and view all of Bush's documents. Why all the secrecy from Obama?

Michael wrote:Nice response, Chris

Hey Darth, you're putting the cart before the horse. There were lots of people asking for that stuff all along and everyone kept saying, "He couldn't be in this position if he weren't a citizen, so your request is moot a priori." And they usually say it in a heavy, Italian accent, just like Bat Boy.

Anyway, this is a red herring. It's an issue that Obama somehow is able to skirt, so this is just BS to actually give him support at a time when they're ramrodding some heinous legislation through Congress.

Hey Michael, it matters what the federal election commision wants and not what john q.public blusters about.

there are clear criteria for becoming president and all that is vetted by the FEC in the USA.

So, it should be a simple matter of asking the FEC did he meet the criteria, obviously he did or he wouldn't have even hit the campaign trail because he would have had to supply all pertinent proof documentation before even doing that.

the red herring is the wast of time that is being attempted by those who are too stupid to understand how the electoral process works.

"well I'm sorry mr.president but we would actually, each and everyone of us like to peruse those documents at our leisure thank you."

to which any sane person would reply, "fuck you". lol

If your FEC is failing, then therein is your problem and you are seeking to get satisfaction from the wrong place.

chud wrote:
I can go online and view all of Bush's documents. Why all the secrecy from Obama?

No you can't and he is not being secretive, he is simply not buying into the political games of the blustering foot stampers.

lol

Not to mention, he was vetted by the people who have the onus on them to vett him. That is, the american people. Who voted him into power! lol

so, the people demanding this are those whose candidate lost the election.

also proposed legislation is not law, it is proposed.

also, "natural born" is not the only constitutional clause, and having dual citizenship is a no starter, as in not an issue constitutionally speaking.

just saying, the onus is on the people and the media to vett these candidates as well as the FEC who did their part.

This issue is a sub-distraction to the main distraction, Obama himself, who is just a front man for Wall Street bankers.

Watch The Obama Deception today!

And kiss a Canadian today, if you get a chance!

Michael wrote:This issue is a sub-distraction to the main distraction, Obama himself, who is just a front man for Wall Street bankers.

Watch The Obama Deception today!

And kiss a Canadian today, if you get a chance!

My main point being it is up to the people to vett the POTUS. The onus is not on him.
The state of Hawaii and the city of Honolulu have both verified his birth there.
The people of the USA elected him POTUS.

Conspiracy theories about wall street bankers are just that.
Ultimately it is loose laws, poor regulation and unfettered greed that are at issue with the collapse of the stock market.
The resistance to global participation that has destroyed GM and Chrysler (FORD is global, see how well they are doing)
And finally, the legislation of the former administration under Bush that opened the door for Americans, who are already for the most part financially illiterate by all indications, to live way beyond their means by virtue of that legislation that spiralled into teh sub-prime mortgage fiasco which ultimately led to the domino effect on the global markets.

In essence, it was th Bush regime raping the pantry before the next president made it into office.

the attention should be on indicting, charging and criminally convicting George W Bush and Dick Cheney for their crimes committed while in office.

so, all this distraction about Obama is in my opinion, just distraction to put off the pursuit of justice with the real bad guys who were the previous administration.

Michael wrote:This issue is a sub-distraction to the main distraction, Obama himself, who is just a front man for Wall Street bankers.

Watch The Obama Deception today!

I just got my copy of The Obama Deception from OneDollarDvdProject.com (along with a lot of other cool DVD's).

Michael wrote:And kiss a Canadian today, if you get a chance!

If she's hot, then no problem.

Darth Rock&Roll wrote:Conspiracy theories about wall street bankers are just that.

It's certainly no theory that his primary monetary and other support came from Wall Street Bankers.

In essence, it was the Bush regime raping the pantry before the next president made it into office.

the attention should be on indicting, charging and criminally convicting George W Bush and Dick Cheney for their crimes committed while in office.

I second!!!!

Michael wrote:This issue is a sub-distraction to the main distraction, Obama himself, who is just a front man for Wall Street bankers.

So does that mean he is a US citizen?

Teazer wrote:So does that mean he is a US citizen?

Let's let Obama answer that question himself; all he has to do is provide a birth certificate.

chud wrote:

Teazer wrote:So does that mean he is a US citizen?

Let's let Obama answer that question himself; all he has to do is provide a birth certificate.

Which he has. Or at least the State of Hawaii and the City of Honolulu have when requested to do so.

Today's decision centered on an emergency appeal from New Jersey man Leo Donofrio, who says Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth. Donofrio said that since Obama had dual nationality at birth - his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject - he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen." The Constitution says all U.S. presidents must be a natural-born citizen in order to hold office.


I didn't read the whole thread, so pardon me if this has been pointed out. A natural born citizen is defined as someone either born on U.S. soil or born to a U.S. citizen. If Obama-Mama was a citizen, Obama is a natural born citizen regardless of what soil he was born on.

Tom wrote:
We have it on good authority (the Federal Reserve) that Obama's mama was actually born on Mars, and was left behind after we won the War of the Worlds.

Well in that case, carry on with the lawsuit!

Let's git 'im, Bubba, he's different. He don't look like us.