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Re: Bruce Franzis - Hsing I & I Chuan - 11 CD set...

Postby grzegorz on Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:57 am

Thanks Ed,

I would be nice to know more and see the same results reproduced through the scientific method.

Dr. Longo has shown the effects of fasting on tumors and fighting cancer. Yet it isn't a substitute for cancer treatment in fact fasting (even a 24 hour fast) is often done with chemo with greater results in battling cancer.

This is my issue with chi-gong for cancer. I believe chi-gong should be done by everyone but I don't think it should be sold as a substitute or a cure because I don't think it is anymore than fasting (and fasting is a normal part of my lifestyle). Also I don't think there is enough exact research to say that moving chi cures cancer. If someday this is proven and replicated and it is understood where it fits in within the context of other treatments for cancer then I can see reason to tell students this type of information but until then ethically I would not.
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Re: Bruce Franzis - Hsing I & I Chuan - 11 CD set...

Postby edededed on Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:57 pm

Guo Lin qigong was only developed a few generations ago, and was one person's attempt to use qigong to cure cancer, essentially via spontaneous regression. We also see spontaneous regression happening after fasting, after big lifestyle changes, or sometimes even mysteriously (we don't know why). Some even think it happens often (based on internal scars, etc. discovered later) - since if cancer starts, and regresses before we notice it, we won't remember it.

So I think that although we have some clues and ideas now, we've a long way to go before we know the exact mechanisms of how to kick off spontaneous regression. Unfortunately, as this kind of treatment is less monetizable than new medicines, etc., I wonder if research will spend its time elsewhere.

Guo Lin's research and practice was "step 1" in terms of qigong (she made some big changes).
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Re: Bruce Franzis - Hsing I & I Chuan - 11 CD set...

Postby D_Glenn on Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:16 am

I’ve found some research that shows that doing a strict Ketogenic diet while getting radiation treatments on a brain tumor is more effective than not doing keto. Autophagy from intermittent fasting is scavenging random fragmented proteins in your body. These proteins can mimic dna and cause a cell to mutate into a cancerous cell.
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Re: Bruce Franzis - Hsing I & I Chuan - 11 CD set...

Postby grzegorz on Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:24 pm

I would like to hear more.

Dr Longo wasn't using IF though but a prolonged fast.

Probably belongs on the diet thread (below) but since it's cancer we are discussing I will post a video of Longo below. There is some other information you might find into in that thread


https://rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic.php ... d9#p474130

Here's Dr Longo.

Watch "Dr. Valter Longo - Fasting Cycles Retard Growth of Tumors" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/LGafhm1cuSI
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Re: Bruce Franzis - Hsing I & I Chuan - 11 CD set...

Postby BonesCom on Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:32 am

D_Glenn wrote:I’ve found some research that shows that doing a strict Ketogenic diet while getting radiation treatments on a brain tumor is more effective than not doing keto. Autophagy from intermittent fasting is scavenging random fragmented proteins in your body. These proteins can mimic dna and cause a cell to mutate into a cancerous cell.


I'm interested in where you read this.

But, I'm also confused.

The way it reads you're saying that keto diet and intermittent fasting have opposite effects

Keto diet ===> greater effect of radiation on brain tumour cells = good

Intermittent fasting ===> autophagy of "random fragment proteins" ===> mimic DNA ===> increase mutations ===> turn healthy cells cancerous = bad(?)
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Re: Bruce Franzis - Hsing I & I Chuan - 11 CD set...

Postby D_Glenn on Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:50 am

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5842847/

There’s a few more articles on Ketogenic diet and ketosis, if you just search terms of tumor ncbi ketosis.
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Re: Bruce Franzis - Hsing I & I Chuan - 11 CD set...

Postby D_Glenn on Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:03 am

I should have just posted the links before, instead of trying to summarize: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6257056/
Autophagy means that your body eats the toxic proteins in your body that contribute to mutation.

Some cancer cells can’t use ketones for fuel, so starving them of glucose kills them.

To what Ededed... wrote, I’m a survivor of childhood leukemia, which back then Chemotherapy was really archaic. I nearly relapsed at one point was upgraded from medium risk to high risk. I caught a really bad infection one time, and I’m allergic to a whole class of penicillin drugs called Erythromycin, so I had exhausted all the available antibacterial drugs that they could give me. So my doctors and nurses sat down with me and in no short terms, said I was going to die if I didn’t imagine myself beating the infection. To not just lie in bed. Get up and have the will to live.
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