Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:25 pm

You said it Meeks!

If people voted in those who were noy owned by the corporations and the banksters everything would be different.

Unfortunately though a recent poll found that most Republicans believe Trump may have committed crimes before getting elected but don't care. In fact most people believe Cohen over the pres despite some memes here.

This is where we are and why I think Republicans are more obsessed with Blacks Lives Matter, the Covington Catholic boys, AOC once being a waitress and bartender and the cast of Empire. Instead of focusing on issues for the GOP it has become a culture war with the forgotten man becoming more forgotten.

The odd thing is that the poorest counties and poorest states are almost always red. Unfortunately I don't this will change, Walmart came into these places and shut down the mom and pop businesses. Then Amazon came in and shut down the brick and mortar stores. Yet these people still think the GOP is on their side because a football star took a knee during the national anthem and nothing makes them angrier than that.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:43 am

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby origami_itto on Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:42 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:33 pm

Curb is my favorite show.

Watch "Trump curbs Bernie's enthusiasm for Socialism" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/brIibOyt4Wc
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby edededed on Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:44 pm

Today, money is more important than virtue (e.g. capitalism). Thus, selling of military weapons to dubious regimes (money!), showing sex and debauchery on TV/movies (money!), policies that favor rich people (money!), allowing campaign contributions to control politics (money!), etc.

Groupthink is very dangerous, and I always wonder how self-reported devout Christians can be okay with Trump, and think that he is God's chosen one... The left is also extreme as well. Basically, people are thinking with their emotions, and not with their minds (logic). Good logic of course requires good foundational knowledge though. Anyway, people should be evaluated in a balanced way - what is the good, what is the bad? Each side paints the other in a one-color brush. E.g. I am sure Trump does not only do evil - I personally like how he is a teetotaler.

Universal healthcare does not mean that doctors will be poor. National insurance will cover most things, but not new treatments, etc. Doctors can still specialize in new treatments, etc. Doctors are still rich in countries like Japan, etc.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:11 am

A Florida sixth-grader who was arrested last month following a Pledge of Allegiance dispute at his school will not be prosecuted, his attorney said Wednesday night.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:28 am

Today, money is more important than virtue (e.g. capitalism).


The US has always placed money above virtue or morality from before it was founded.

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And more importantly, for their investors. Follow the money.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:11 pm

Steve James wrote:
Today, money is more important than virtue (e.g. capitalism).


The US has always placed money above virtue or morality from before it was founded.

In what sense do you mean? Not trying to put words in your mouth, but in reference to the picture, do you mean regarding war, that the money for the cost and from the benefit of war is the highest virtue of the USA since the 13 colonies or earlier?
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:03 pm

In what sense do you mean? Not trying to put words in your mouth, but in reference to the picture, do you mean regarding war, that the money for the cost and from the benefit of war is the highest virtue of the USA since the 13 colonies or earlier?


The enslavement of Africans was done for profit --unless you think it was a racial thing. By keeping slavery, the US made a pact with the devil and contradicted its fundamental premise for seeking freedom from Britain. While I was growing up, it was common to hear that the Civil War wasn't about slavery. It wasn't; it was about economics. The morality of slavery wasn't questioned in the south. Though, it was rationalized using race, politics, religion, and the economy.

After the Civil War, during Reconstruction, the conflict wasn't racial in the south. There was merely a competition for resources. Black-owned businesses were simply competitors to those owned or created by returning Confederate veterans. In fact, the KKK was formed by those people as a way to take care of their own: i.e., rebel veterans, widows, and their children. Anyway, the competition was also for jobs necessary to rebuild the south. Hence, laws that landed many ex-slaves in prisons that the state then farmed out to build roads and work on plantations. It was economical.

I could go on. The US didn't enter WW2 for moral reasons, or even to help Jews. After the war, the US's new "military industrial complex" was dedicated to maintaining war-time production through the promotion of conflicts. Anyway, my point is not that the US military is connected to slavery (though the "militia" part of the 2nd Amendment is). My point is that the US does not act on moral grounds. Moreover, when there is a clear choice between money and even the appearance of morality, the US chooses the money. Khashoggi is an example. Even it was clear what happened, even the most allegedly religious televangelist argued that "we can't give up $300 million because of one man."

I could cite people from the 1800s who'd point out the same thing; that "America" has only ever pretended to be moral. It hides its immorality behind false piety. It puts God on its money. America's real god is Mammon, and always has been. "America is false to the past, false to the present, and solemnly binds herself to be false to the future." Naw, the only thing I will take back is that I don't really mean "America" or refer to all "Americans."

Ha, you don't know what I mean :)
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:12 pm

Joke:
Why did Spaniards say that they enslaved Indians? To save their souls ... and use the gold they weren't using to promote the faith.
That's why there so much gold in Spanish churches, and so many Catholics in South America.

What do you call an oil field on sacred Indian land? Another opportunity for progress and jobs.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:09 pm

Ha, you don't know what I mean :)

No, I know what you mean, and I agree. Just wanted to clarify if, because of that picture, you were focusing only on the military, which is for me the most obvious sign of moral failure since the abolition of slavery.

The distinction about America and Americans is what I would have asked you next, but you seem to have anticipated my follow up.

This question constantly reminds me of corporations only prioritizing their pursuit of profits in the short-term, and failing to develop a rationale that includes the long-term value of its employees, or the value of the people of its country in general, because there is no consensus of morality in our current system of thought—not sure what to call it, maybe scientific materialism or secular capitalism (?)—that an entity like a corporation can value. The film that illustrates this so well was "Patterns" [1956], written by Rod Serling.

Multinational corporations that are nominally American, and seem to have the ability to use the American Empire to increase their market share through a variety of means, sometimes violent means, are demonstrating by the pure pursuit of profits, without foresight of the potential consequences, or a moral framework that prioritizes something other than money, that they conform to the old adage that a capitalist will sell you the rope with which to hang him.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby origami_itto on Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:25 pm

Steve James wrote:Joke:
Why did Spaniards say that they enslaved Indians? To save their souls ... and use the gold they weren't using to promote the faith.
That's why there so much gold in Spanish churches, and so many Catholics in South America.

What do you call an oil field on sacred Indian land? Another opportunity for progress and jobs.


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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:12 pm

Hey, the situation in Venezuela is funny. I mean, the name "banana republic" came from the phenomenon of the US supporting dictatorships that favored United Fruit Company (at that time in Honduras, but later all of South America).

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:29 am

On a lighter note, not camelflage either:

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby origami_itto on Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:35 am

The incel vote is in regarding Captain Marvel.

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