Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:35 am

Looks like its very clear they can only do what the owners ie their employers allow.


The players are still playing, though, aren't they? Sure, employers can mandate what they wear and what they do while the players are at work. The Constitution does not take away the employer's right to hire and fire for cause. So far, the teams have penalized players with fines, etc., and Kaep hasn't found a job.

The players' are exercising their rights as American citizens, and their employers can punish them for their actions. There's no contradiction. Of course, if the players held up their fists, or wore black arm bands, or did anything else to protest what they're protesting, the outcry of '''they're being unpatriotic" would be sounded. It always has.

It's interesting that people argue that the Second Amendment gives them the right to bear arms. And people get upset when people are fired for making inappropriate remarks or actions to co-workers.

Can you explain how the president is "trying to infringe upon their rights and get them fired."


The president has called them sons of bitches, suggested that they should be fired, and threatened to find ways to hurt the NFL if the league doesn't stop the players from protesting. He threatened to change the tax laws that benefit the league. He backed off, but it was a governmental threat that amounts to coercion. Worse, it's coercion to fake patriotism. If they stand, but don't mean it, it's only a show.

And, I know that some would say that the president has "Freedom of speech" so he can say what he wants. Of course, using the same argument, the Constitution does not give him that right. The Constitution just says that the government can't infringe upon him. His employers, however, can hire and fire him. Right?
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby windwalker on Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:56 am

Steve James wrote: The Constitution just says that the government can't infringe upon him. you might want to look up what impeachment is, and what is meant by "high crimes and misdemeanors".[1] His employers, however, can hire and fire him. Right?


Its called an election. In 2020 the American people will have this opportunity.

Regarding the players

As far as the national anthem, the statement outlined rule changes to go into effect for the 2018 season. Players and team personnel who are on the field for the anthem will be required to "stand and show respect for the flag and the Anthem," and clubs will be subject to fines if anyone on the field violates that rule.

However, players will no longer be required to be on the field during the anthem - so anyone who chooses to protest may do so in the locker room, or "in a similar location off the field" until after the anthem is finished.


A half way measure that will make the impact of any protest during the anthem mute as it will not be seen....although it still might get some attention...

of course money talks

Abdul-Rauf's position went unnoticed for months and when it became public the following season, the NBA told him he could remain in the locker room if he did not want to stand, but he refused, according to a report by Outside the Lines. The league suspended him for one game without pay, a loss of $31,707. Afterward, he agreed to stand -- but pray -- during the anthem.

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:41 am

Still. They can and do protest, and their employers have the right to punish them or not.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby windwalker on Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:38 pm

"JFK - serial womaniser and prescription drug addict

LBJ - escalated war in Vietnam - killed thousands and split America at home

Nixon - impeached crooked liar

Gerald Ford - couldn’t shit and chew gum at the same time

Jimmy Carter - iran hostage cock up

Reagan - Iran-contra scandal and memory loss

Bush I - first gulf war

Clinton - impeached womaniser and alleged rapist

Bush 2 - iraq War

Obama - drone strikes and failed promises

Trump - tweets a lot"
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby warriorprincess on Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:59 pm

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Why can't the incels get the words right?
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Bill on Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:47 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:34 pm

Watch "Plaid Shirt Guy Reaction To Donald Trump Speech at Rally In Billings, MT | 9-6-18" on YouTube

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:36 pm

windwalker wrote:Trump - tweets a lot"


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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:47 pm

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Exactly! And now the police are trying to smear him for a small amount of marijuana they supposedly found in an unauthorized search of the apartment.

If you can't resolve a situation without shooting first and asking questions later then don't become a cop.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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