Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:59 pm

The best explanation for how you can feel hate by looking at a 30 second clip of a white boy in a MAGA hat smiling quietly at a man in his 60's banging a drum inches from the boy's face and chanting is that the hate was already inside you before you saw the clip.

If you hate white boys or MAGA, maybe both, or whatever buzzwords were put in the tags included with the clip, then you condemn the boy, the school, and go along with doxxing him, the other students, their families and condone the many death threats against them, including threats to bomb and burn the school down with all the students inside.

If you hate American Indians or brown people you'll come down on that side of it.

If you don't hate, you look at this 30 clip with no words and no contact and you see nothing.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby oragami_itto on Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:09 pm

Political HUMOR only, please.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby oragami_itto on Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:12 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby oragami_itto on Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:14 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:28 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby oragami_itto on Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:44 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby oragami_itto on Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:50 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:12 pm

Mike,

I didn't even bother reading your rant but I will this and it's the last I will say on this boring old story from weeks ago.

Even the kid admitted he wished he would have just walked away and I completely agree.

Move on already...Is China 2019 boring or something? Because no one here in the US even gives a crap anymore.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:18 pm

Priceless!

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:21 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:06 pm

oragami_itto wrote:Political HUMOR only, please.

Get real. We keep asking Steve and Greg to do that and they turned this into a non-humor thread much of the time.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Michael on Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:11 pm

grzegorz wrote:Mike,

I didn't even bother reading your rant but I will this and it's the last I will say on this boring old story from weeks ago.

Even the kid admitted he wished he would have just walked away and I completely agree.

Move on already...Is China 2019 boring or something? Because no one here in the US even gives a crap anymore.

Sure, it's a boring old story, one that you continued to post about and that you're still arguing in the same post where you say you don't care.

Just tell us why you hate the kid and how you can condone the doxxing and death threats after seeing the additional video?
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby grzegorz on Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:34 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:08 pm

Get real. We keep asking Steve and Greg to do that and they turned this into a non-humor thread much of the time.


"much" of the time is a bit vague, but I admit that I can get serious about what some things that are presented as "humor," but are just plain mean. But, since you mentioned that I do this much of the time, I might as well live up to the reputation I've been given.

Okay, "people" were mistaken in their interpretation of the image they saw. What did they think they saw, and why did they think that? Well, it wasn't just the one guy; it was a group of people (identified as such by their clothing) who appeared to be shouting at an elderly man who was beating a small drum. What was the response?

People who saw the images were outraged. Why? It looked like a group of racist White (Catholic) male teens wearing Trump paraphernalia taunting and defying an elderly (brown) Native American man. Brown people outraged. Catholic people outraged. Even many Trump supporters thought what the teens (looked like they) were doing was repugnant, and certainly not representative.

Then, the mother of the cap boy said that it was "Black Muslims" who started it. Turned out she was one-quarter right. There were Black people there, but they consider themselves Black Israelites. The specifics of their beliefs can be researched, but they feel they are more indigenous that Native Americans. However, the boy in the cap wasn't confronting or standing up to the Black Israelites, who aren't on the side of the Native Americans (and think that the Jews are not legitimate, etc.). Why the Indian man and the boy didn't see themselves as on the same side, and why the Indian man was being laughed at, have always interested me more than what the boy was doing. People say he wasn't doing anything, but the question is why he was doing nothing there.

Anyway, I congratulate the people who found the images disturbing. They shouldn't be ashamed of expressing their opinions about what it looked like. If the boys had not had any Trump clothes on, the reaction would be the same. In fact, Bill posted an image in this thread that ridiculed the way the image of the boys was equated to the image of a lynching. (I didn't respond to that one). I mean. Whew, aren't we glad that people thought the image looked bad rather than them thinking it was an act of patriotism (against the Chiefs, no less).

So, far from being an act of hatred, it showed that people generally DO NOT believe in racism. Don't feel bad or try to make others feel bad. It isn't a white/brown issue, and it's certainly not possible to assert that White people are full of hatred because of their response. At best, one can argue that they interpreted the image in its worst possible light. Of course, it shows that we should all avoid "racial profiling" based on color (creed, ethnicity, origin) or profiling people based on what they wear, like hoodies or baggy pants. Individual behavior is what counts. If that's what the patriots are standing up for, I'm with them.

Oh, btw, in the longest video of the event, the Black Israelites are confronted by Black people, Hispanics, and others. I think it's funny that the person who's getting the most attention is the one who did nothing.
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