Political Humor Only Please

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Ian C. Kuzushi on Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:57 pm

Only a Republican would think that people are upset about the physical damage done to the Capitol. ::)

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Giles on Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:06 am

Yup. If the Trumpite mob had trashed a brand-new but empty shopping mall, even if they caused millions of dollars of damage, it would be a rather different story to what actually happened, no?

I would agree that the quote by this NYT reporter is in itself pretty dumb, unless it has been taken out of context so much that her message has been distorted. But not applicable here.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Bill on Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:29 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Giles on Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:01 am

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Guess you hit the nail on the head, Bill. 8-)


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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:13 am

Did someone say Orwell? That's funny.

{Medal of Freedom winner] Rush Limbaugh took to the airwaves Thursday to dismiss concerns over violence in the U.S. Capitol the day before, likening the rioting supporters of President Donald Trump to the country’s founding fathers. “We’re supposed to be horrified by the protesters. There’s a lot of people out there calling for the end of violence,” he said. “A lot of conservatives, social media, who say that any violence or aggression at all is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances. I am glad Sam Adams, Thomas Paine, the actual Tea Party guys, the men at Lexington and Concord, didn’t feel that way.”


See. They're like the Tea Party and Lexington and Concord. Right? Well, except he next says that it was Antifa and Democrat instigators who did the damage. See how that works, George.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby oragami_itto on Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:16 am

Steve James wrote:Did someone say Orwell? That's funny.

{Medal of Freedom winner] Rush Limbaugh took to the airwaves Thursday to dismiss concerns over violence in the U.S. Capitol the day before, likening the rioting supporters of President Donald Trump to the country’s founding fathers. “We’re supposed to be horrified by the protesters. There’s a lot of people out there calling for the end of violence,” he said. “A lot of conservatives, social media, who say that any violence or aggression at all is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances. I am glad Sam Adams, Thomas Paine, the actual Tea Party guys, the men at Lexington and Concord, didn’t feel that way.”


See. They're like the Tea Party and Lexington and Concord. Right? Well, except he next says that it was Antifa and Democrat instigators who did the damage. See how that works, George.


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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:20 am

Ha, did you know that the Boston Tea Partyers dressed up like Mohawk Indians? I bet nobody would ever guess the reason why.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Bill on Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:22 pm

“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'”

“We are the dead. Our only true life is in the future. We shall take part in it as handfuls of dust and splinters of bone. But how far away that future may be, there is no knowing. It might be a thousand years. At present nothing is possible except to extend the area of sanity little by little. We cannot act collectively. We can only spread our knowledge outwards from individual to individual, generation after generation. In the face of the Thought Police there is no other way.”
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:38 pm

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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:45 pm

Meanwhile, preparations for MAGA attendees at the inauguration.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Bill on Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:02 pm

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It is disappointing to see that you have bought the lie that Trump incited the mob.
He, in fact, said nothing inciting at all.
Quote for me any thing he said that would incite that crowd to violence.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby oragami_itto on Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:18 pm

Bill wrote:Steve
It is disappointing to see that you have bought the lie that Trump incited the mob.
He, in fact, said nothing inciting at all.
Quote for me any thing he said that would incite that crowd to violence.


Why do YOU think they marched to the capitol, broke through the doors, and beat a cop to death?
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:06 pm

Bill wrote:Steve
It is disappointing to see that you have bought the lie that Trump incited the mob.
He, in fact, said nothing inciting at all.
Quote for me any thing he said that would incite that crowd to violence.


Ah, but I have not said that Trump incited the mob. I scoffed at the idea of using Orwell, which is strange --but predictable-- coming from the right which specializes in "It wasn't me."

Besides, claiming that Trump incited the mob with his words like "You've got to fight," is a charge that can be debated in a court. Ok, the House just impeached him for exactly that. It's not a court of law, but it will go to the Senate where --unlike his last impeachment-- evidence will be presented and the witnesses will be the judges.

Unfortunately, even if I bought this "lie," at least there's video. I feel sorry for the people who bought Trump's lies (like Pence could do what he wanted) and then they died. I wonder if he's contacted the families of the deceased. Though, the punk said he'd be "right with you" to the people who went to the Capitol. Instead he watched on tv.

Back to Orwell, though, this was a "mob" of people who claim to be "law and order" who tried to overturn an election --some through murder. Don't ask me. Find a video of House minority leader McCarthy; he admits the truth behind the lie that has caused all this.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Bill on Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:09 pm

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The breaking through the windows and doors started just before 1 pm.
Trumps speech ended at about 1:10pm. It's a 1.5 mile walk from the speech site to congress, so that's a good 30 minute walk.
If you look at the video of the group breaking the window you can see one man wearing a helmet and 2 other men wearing helmets under their hoodies. They came prepared to do damage and so I conclude they were not influenced by Trump and spontaneously decided to riot. They came prepared to riot.
As far as I know, no cop was beaten to death, one cop did die after the riot was over but I don' t know if they've released the cause of death yet.
Everyone who broke in deserves to be punished for what they did. Most looked like they were wondering around aimlessly, not knowing what to do once they got inside. A bunch of thugs caused some damage and I did see one disturbing photo of a cop getting beaten outside. That was pretty bad.
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Re: Political Humor Only Please

Postby Steve James on Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm

Like I said, there'll be a trial. It's only been 7 days. The last attack on America lasted many years. More people died at the Capitol than at Benghazi. It's not going away. You better believe 1/6 2021 will be at least a memorial day.

Sure. You don't have the information yet. There are still lots of people in the hospital. I ain't gonna argue. However, if they weren't incited or inspired by Trump, the vast majority were there for Trump.

And there were no "Antifa" flags, of course. But there were plenty of neo-Nazi, anti-Jewish, and other insignias there. (I know. "People say" that they were really BLM in disguise. Though, quite a few of them seem to have actually been police officers, sitting and ex-politicians, and the (actual) reports are that even some legislators in the building assisted the rioters.

Trump spoke and they listened. He didn't tell them to riot, maybe, but he did tell them they had to "get rid of Liz Cheney," and they did call Mike Pence a "traitor," erect a gallows, and threaten his life. Ok, it was symbolic and they just had a few too many beers. All fun and games until someone gets trampled to death for a lie. Oh, I forgot. We don't know yet. So, people died for no reason.
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