Re: External Sports Influence
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:43 am
Don't bother about the video. It really doesn't matter. If YLC learned something he wasn't supposed to, there's no reason for you to know it either. If CXW can decide to teach non-Chen family outsiders, so could his ancestors. TCC didn't become world famous because of Chen style. It wasn't until the early 80s that it was even widely known outside of China. That was the result of the war and early communist regime. Before the late 70s, most of the tcma --and specifically tcc, bg, and xy-- came from Hong Kong, Taiwan, Shanghai and other non-communist regions.
TCC, in whatever form it was known, had spread worldwide long before that. Whether it deserved the acclaim or not, it was Yang style that had it. However, I was in Madison Square Garden when the Chinese Wushu Team from Peking did their demonstration. One of the members was a young Jet Li. But, I'll never forget 1, the Iron chigung guy, but 2, when they introduced Chen style tcc as the "real, original" taichi. That was summer 1980. It took perhaps 3 or more years before the "the four tigers of Chenjiagou" were introduced in Inside Kung Fu and other tcc magazines. One of them, of course, was CXW.
I am not going to say that he's wrong. I study folklore, and I know that family histories are important. I'll only say that I don't care if he describes what YLC did as stealing. He was the one to begin the process of making tcc famous. Even more debt is owed to YCF.
But, since the 80s, there's been a constant attempt to disprove this or that tcc legend. It's silly since tcc is not highly regarded by many other martial arts. So, it's a pissing contest for nothing. It proves nothing about individual skill.
And, if it was stolen, there's no way to give it back.
TCC, in whatever form it was known, had spread worldwide long before that. Whether it deserved the acclaim or not, it was Yang style that had it. However, I was in Madison Square Garden when the Chinese Wushu Team from Peking did their demonstration. One of the members was a young Jet Li. But, I'll never forget 1, the Iron chigung guy, but 2, when they introduced Chen style tcc as the "real, original" taichi. That was summer 1980. It took perhaps 3 or more years before the "the four tigers of Chenjiagou" were introduced in Inside Kung Fu and other tcc magazines. One of them, of course, was CXW.
I am not going to say that he's wrong. I study folklore, and I know that family histories are important. I'll only say that I don't care if he describes what YLC did as stealing. He was the one to begin the process of making tcc famous. Even more debt is owed to YCF.
But, since the 80s, there's been a constant attempt to disprove this or that tcc legend. It's silly since tcc is not highly regarded by many other martial arts. So, it's a pissing contest for nothing. It proves nothing about individual skill.
And, if it was stolen, there's no way to give it back.