Who is the best non-living Internally External Master ??

[alexsuffolk]

Ok ...so who WAS the greatest ever , of all time...ever? and why?

One vote requested per expert. (must be non-living to qualify)

Mine is

Yueh Fei - even if he didnt create two (yes two !!!!) of the coolest martial arts ever, his deeds and legends have lasted far longer than yer average cage fight......and his tomb still exists so thats proof that his Qi was strong also.

And!!! He died by the hand of the forces of darkness - like Cheng Ting Hua (who should get an honourable mention here for that final courageous act...)

[alexsuffolk]

um.....re. the request part above......i mean the master must be non-living not the voter...thank you.

[DeusTrismegistus]

Lu Bu, because he skewered anyone and everyone and was so feared no one would screw with him in outright battle, because he would cut them to ribbons!

[cerebus]

Feh! Amateurs. Now my choice.... General Kwan! Top that if ya can...

[Michael]

Sun Wu Kong
Let's see, a combo monkey-man who was born of a "stone egg" and can travel back and forth to "heaven" with a pig-man friend. Sounds like an allegory for higher dimensional beings doing some genetic experiments on humans. Internal (earth) and external (heaven). So there's my vote. Most of my female students think Sandy would make a better husband. God, I hate Internet poles. But weisek is okay, LOL.

[cerebus]

Good one. But Kwan Kung created the Kwan Dao and was elevated to the status of "God of War" amongst his other legendary bad-assedness.

[alexsuffolk]

Hold on...hold on....Sun Wu Kung is an Immortal, making him still existing.

[Felipe Bidó]

......and his tomb still exists so thats proof that his Qi was strong also.

Is there anything particular about his tomb?

[TaoJoannes]

Count Dante, of course.

[nianfong]

xiang yu. the guy beat everyone, and when he was finally cornered and surrounded, instead of surrendering, he cut off his own head AND HANDED IT TO HIS "CAPTOR".
an ancient chinese history lesson for you guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiang_Yu
sworn brother and bitter rival of Liu Bang (han gao zu, founder of the han dynasty).

lu bu was killed by a chick. pussy.

[qiphlow]

lu bu was killed by a chick. pussy.

indeed.

[Michael Babin]

Since the thread title doesn't actually say "Who is the best non-living Chinese..." I nominate the Roman Republican hero Horatius Cocles who held a bridge almost single-handed against a swarm of enemies attacking the city around c.500BC while his comrades cut the bridge to pieces at the other end. When the bridge was down he threw himself into the water and swam back to his comrades on the other bank of the river.

The written accounts by later Roman historians say that he survived... despite having been speared in the buttock as he dove in. As if swimming in full armor on its own after a long fight doesn't give him the right to be a western long-dead internal/external master.

[yusuf]

i'm nominating Ching Shih


http://www.badassoftheweek.com/chingshih.html

a woman pirate ex prostitute who thought 'screw blowing these dicks, i'm going amazonian insane cow on these chinese bastards'

[cerebus]

Count Dante, of course.

Damn! Can't believe I missed that! +1 to TaoJohannes...

[Mut]

Ip Shui

god damn it i forgot how to embed utube so...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k5e6kQtF6A