Mmmm ok I will start another thread for guard posture differences soon as this one seems to have changed course.
Re. Mr. Cartmell, whatever his claims as to Sun Bagua and Shanxi Xingyi my guess he is he presenting the outer shell of an ancient tree, thats why it can be 'used' in two weeks. Had no idea who this man was and he may well be a good fighter, from what I can gather he did years of Neijia arts then moved to sports jujitsu. Ok......
Make of all this what you will, have seen many people over the years who did a little of something with a great teacher then claimed to have the system. Checking out with other sources in Shanxi today I find this man visited there a couple of times for a few weeks and now teaches 'Shanxi Xingyi' ! What to do.....
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Friends, someone may be famous, a good dojo fighter, sports fighter, or even leitai fighter.....this may be a world away from really having a system such as Bagua deep in your bones. I guess in the modern market place its just all a product anyway. Thank God we have been training away from all that for all these years!
I just received a message from board member , similar to my friend's message to me earlier today
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Dear Sir, I am a friend of XXXXXXXXXX. He spent time with Madame Sun. He however does not claim to be a lineage holder. He knows alot aout Sun's methods. Anyway, I concur with you. I was told that Tim probably was only around Madame Sun for less than a month. XXXXX as well knows of Tim as he was friends with Marcus Brinkman and Bill Tucker (tudi of Luo Dexiu). XXXXX was around Madame Sun in the 1980's. I believe he as well trained with General He in Taiwan as well.
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