Finny wrote:Do you disagree that tens of thousands of people die each year in America from gunshot wounds?
If not, how do you seriously argue that guns make Americans safer?
strawdog wrote:Oh, I get it, I just happened to live the past 25 years completely shielded from the violent crimes happening all around me.
Dmitri wrote:
Like I've said before, IMHO the biggest problem is in the "public opinion" about guns, driven by sheer lack of any sort of familiarity with or education about them.
juz wrote:To equate freedom with owning an instrument
Dmitri wrote:Here's a more specific research:
http://www.unicri.it/wwk/publications/b ... ERSHIP.pdf
There is very little correlation, almost none at all. Well below the "see, it matters a lot!" mark.juz wrote:To equate freedom with owning an instrument
Nobody does that. (Well I don't anyway. )
juz wrote:To equate freedom with owning an instrument
Dmitri wrote:Finny, Ian -- the stats are a funny thing. The "gun-related deaths" include mobs, etc. It could simply mean that there are more mobs in the US than in some other countries, THAT'S ALL. (I'm not saying it does -- I'm just saying it could mean that, no?) But regardless...
I used to hold your views, BTW, and not so long ago.
It's people, it's always been peoplem it'll always be people that kill...It's that simple.
Finny wrote:I'm just sayin, you have the guns, sooner or later folks get shot - and not always the bad guys.
I think he said at one point in this thread "it's not the police's job to protect the public, they're there to enforce the law"
Whatever happened to the "to PROTECT and serve" written on the side of all the cop cars in hollywood movies I see - they don't follow that motto anymore?
I prefer to think that they're there to keep me safe from violence.
Ian wrote:Why, Dmitri - what are my views?
Maybe if I knew what you think my views are, I could respond
Your children can't take a screwdriver to school and kill a bunch of their classmates. They can't use a screwdrive to accidentally kill themselves, either. It's harder for people to hold up a convenience store or rob a bank with screwdrivers.
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