neijia_boxer wrote:There is a person I know who is teaching Chen Taijiquan in the area who advertises that his art is the original art and that his is the 'fighting art' of taijiquan.
Doing chen style does not guarantee you can fight with your style that you teach, especially Having absolutely no fighting experience or fight record at all. Alot of chen people say they are the fighting style of taijiquan. Nor have i seen any chen people in any Lei Tai or San shou event ever! Some Yang stylist perhaps but no chen stylists. The Chen grandmasters that come and tour and do seminars have not taught one san shou or sanda seminar at all. Chen grandmasters have done maybe some push hands with qin-na, but not taught any real fighting as of yet in USA.
what makes your art the real fighting art?
what are they doing in chen village that they are not doing in American Chen schools? i have heard they do have sanda in Chen village now.
DeusTrismegistus wrote:
What makes Chen style better for fighting than Yang, Chang, Hao, Wu, or Sun style?
sdf wrote:Before we evaluate any martial art we have to figure out what aspect we are interested in sport or martial? The sport aspect implies rules, protective gears, score system and other things which most traditional martial arts get assimilated by today. In contrast, martial aspect implies killing your opponent or disable him by severely injuring him.
Chen Taijiquan as martial art primely was focused on weapon training such as guan dao, dao and etc. Thus, it's actually was born as the battlefield practice with some bare hand elements as supplemental skill and foundation for weapon training. Chen Wangting (the founder if Chen taijiquan) designed tui shou as a training method in order to learn important skill without injuring your opponent. So so called push hands as come from actual fighting experience not imaginary world
Now, as a Chen practitioner I have a hard to seeing myself in any MAA fight with my 12.5 lbs combat steel guan dao . Also most of the sport rules I'm familiar with prohibit me to take full advantage of my art, so why do I need go and compete if I'm interested in martial art not sport? I believe I'm not the only person with such philosophy. A lot of people tend to improve their art employing methods which allowing them to prevent severe injuries during the training process; however, as I mentioned above the ultimate goal of martial art is to kill not to get score. I don't think I really need go and kill someone to prove that my art is deadly or real fighting art. After all if it wasn't "the real fighting art" how could be around few hundredth years and have good martial reputation since ?:)
I think it would explain why a lot of masters carry on tradition without any desire to be involve competitive sports. However, some of them actually do some kind of competitions paying a tribute to modern society. For example, in China government most likely would not support or promote your art unless your participate in some kind of competition and get some kind of status...People need to make leaving you can blame them for that even if they are masters. ..
qiphlow wrote:like jake said: it ain't the art. it's the artist.
DeusTrismegistus wrote:Yes that is a good reason to consider Chen martial. But what makes it better than the other styles like this advertiser was implying?
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