Shenquan wrote:What's the connection with ma?
halberd, deerhorn knives, double hook swords... what's the connection with ma?
I'm sorry I don't get it. If I buy a gun and learn some basic military concepts about how to use the gun I'm doing modern American martial arts? 'Cos if that's the case I'll gladly keep on sticking to the old Chinese ones
What ability does using a gun enhance (apart being able to kill somebody with no effort even if you're 10 years old of course)?
Shenquan wrote:I don't really think that people interested in ma would start learning how to shoot just because in some parts of the world guns are sold to anyone just willing to buy one.
I mean, let's be serious, there are 1.4 bilion Chinese and and oustanding number of Chinese martial arts (new and old) but I've never heard of a Chinese master teaching how to use a tank just because in modern warfare you can do more damage with a tank than with a sword.
I've never used a gun and I sincerely hope to stay like that till the day I die but there's one thing I'm sure of: using a gun makes you better at shooting but that has absolutely nothing to do with using your body as a weapon
ain't it funny that the guy in the second video shows he's learned the fancy stuff studying japanese swordplay?
During these olympic games an Italian woman has won a gold medal in shooting http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/BIO/Athlete/7/207767.shtml don't tell me she's a dangerous expert fighter or a brilliant internal martial artist just because of that
Shenquan wrote: I've never heard of a Chinese master teaching how to use a tank just because in modern warfare you can do more damage with a tank than with a sword.
It's just debate. And mud-slinging.
That's a personal judgement. It doesn't make firearms work a) any less valid for today's culture, b) anly less martial, and c) any less challenging to master.
But you HAVE heard about xingyi being developed on the battlefield, taiji being used to defend chen village, bagua being used by bodyguards
Spears are for killing people from a distance while protecting their users.
Arrows are for killing people from a distance while protecting their users.
Swords are for killing people from a distance while protecting their users.
Guns are for...?
Don't you think the reason why Chinese martial artists didn't teach how to operate tanks is more along the lines of them not HAVING any tanks? Or tanks not being INVENTED at that time? Or how about during wartime, they learned how to operate tanks from people WHO KNEW HOW. Or they simply had different roles to fulfill?
This is just common sense.
I have ZERO experience with guns, but I'm 100% BEYOND-A-SHADOW-OF-A-DOUBT POSITIVE it doesn't teach you as much about the martial arts as a fake spear does
What's funny about that? James Williams has more than 40 years of experience in the martial arts. His credentials are too numerous for me to type so have a see for yourself http://www.dojoofthefourwinds.com/instructor.html
Maybe if you're in the area you can ask him in person: why waste time shooting when shooting "has absolutely nothing to do with using your body as a weapon"?
Where did I say shooting makes you a brilliant fighter? Moreover, where did I say anything about internal martial arts??
Nah I have nothing against Mr. Quan.
what is the difference between the man and his weapon shown in the above video and a chinese bagua master armed with a knife in 1885?
technology i think is one of the main differences ... do you hear my point?
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