johnwang wrote:Walk the Torque wrote:I think Hsing Yi would look quite different to Tai Chi for that reason alone.
One XingYi master said, "If I can't knock you down by my 1st Beng Chuan, and I need to use my 2nd Beng Chuan to knock you down, you should be proud of yourself".
the XingYi master 薛颠(Xue Dian) once gave a demonstration. He stood on oneside of the bench. Suddently he was on the other side of that bench. Nobody could even tell how did he move under that bench so fast. Some people in the audience had intention to challenge him (Xue had announced that he would accpet all public challenge). They all changed their mind after that demo. How can you fight someone who can move as fast as ghost?
In the ancient time, most of the TCMA masters didn't have to fight. The moment that their arm made contact, one guy will say, "You are late". The other guy then would say, "You are right. I'm late". The fight would stop righ at that moment. When a Chinese said, "You are late", that means "You will lose."
DeusTrismegistus wrote:I was just reading another thread and imagining challenging Chen Xiaowang to a fight. However, I like striking, and wrestling with a Chen master might not be a great idea. So my strategy would be to punch him in the face. Now regardless of outcome, what would you expect to see in the exchange so you wouldn't just call the striking external?
I know this might be BTDT but I am honestly curious what others think since I am not certain of my own answer.
johnwang wrote:Sometime we mis-understand the Taiji principle, ...The moment that you can sense his intention, you attack. The key is you will need to have excellent judgement about your opponent's "intention" (how and where he is going to move). You then enter that "leak" that he is going to create but hasn't created it yet. The moment that your body has moved into your opponent, the moment that your opponent will expose his "leak" for you. That's "lighting speed". I believe any good TCMA master should all fight like this.
DeusTrismegistus wrote:I was just reading another thread and imagining challenging Chen Xiaowang to a fight. However, I like striking, and wrestling with a Chen master might not be a great idea. So my strategy would be to punch him in the face. Now regardless of outcome, what would you expect to see in the exchange so you wouldn't just call the striking external?
I know this might be BTDT but I am honestly curious what others think since I am not certain of my own answer.
johnwang wrote:I will expect a good sparring is not like you punches/kicks me 50 times and I punches/kicks you 51 times, I'm 1 point ahead of you. I expect 2 guys will move like 2 lions quitely, suddently, one jumps in and the fight is over.
kreese wrote:IMA sparring should be free from moments of freezing into tension. From there, you do what feels best to you, really, to try to describe a specific style is pointless.
Just relax and keep changing, keep breathing, and most of all have control of your mind so that you can choose to not lock up.
liokault wrote:You’re asking two different questions here:
1: Looking "internal": well, it would just be like the Matrix dude, all slow motion and bendy.
2: Reality: The punch would be big and telegraphed, it would strike Chen on the side of the head but it would have little effect other than shocking him. After a 3 second pause while Chen comes to the realisation that he was actually just punched in the head, the fight would then go to a clinch, then the clinch would go to the ground where the biggest/strongest/luckiest guy would win. No one would come out looking good.
tesshu wrote:The question is, if you are punched in the face, does it really matter if this punch is internal or external or whatever?! You will always have to deal with a lot of force and pain.
Steve Rowe wrote:If it was just internal both exponents would stand looking at each other until one fell over, if the internal manifests itself externally - they'd fight like animals.
johnwang wrote:Walk the Torque wrote:I think Hsing Yi would look quite different to Tai Chi for that reason alone.
In the ancient time, most of the TCMA masters didn't have to fight. The moment that their arm made contact, one guy will say, "You are late". The other guy then would say, "You are right. I'm late". The fight would stop righ at that moment. When a Chinese said, "You are late", that means "You will lose."
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