Ron Panunto wrote:RobP2 wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:Sorry, I can't watch Youtube at the moment. Regardless of whether the "other Linkongjin" exists or not, "this Linkongjin" is a real thing that everyone can agree on. Perhaps it would be a good place to start from to try explaining " advanced LKJ".
Perhaps a starting point would be - do you believe that a person can admit some sort of invisible force from their body which can physically affect another person without contact? If it can affect a person can it also affect an object, or perhaps an animal?
This is an excellent starting point Rob since there are only four known forces in the universe: gravity, electromagnetic, the strong nuclear, and the weak nuclear. I'm sure that the theoretical physicists would love to know about a new one.
In physics, action at a distance is the nonlocal interaction of objects that are separated in space.
This term was used most often in the context of early theories of gravity and electromagnetism to describe how an object responds to the influence of distant objects. More generally "action at a distance" describes the failure of early atomistic and mechanistic theories which sought to reduce all physical interaction to collision. The exploration and resolution of this problematic phenomenon led to significant developments in physics, from the concept of a field, to descriptions of quantum entanglement and the mediator particles of the standard model.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_at_a_distance
I think you will find that physicist themselves are not quite sure about how things work.
as far as I know it only works on living things which would make sense and tend to follow the gen theory of qi.
one day my teacher motioned to come see something.
he gently tapped on one of the near by pine trees growing there. looking up we could see that all the needles moved as he touched it as if the tree was being gently shocked. interesting stuff
Sorry, I can't watch Youtube at the moment. Regardless of whether the "other Linkongjin" exists or not, "this Linkongjin" is a real thing that everyone can agree on. Perhaps it would be a good place to start from to try explaining " advanced LKJ".
I dont agree, nor would anyone that I know of who can do it, or has experienced it.
this would not explain how from a distance of 12ft or more one is either pulled or pushed back.
Regardless of whether the "other Linkongjin" exists or not
here's the problem with this statement.
it a redefining of what is commonly accepted as being it by those who have experienced it or can do it.
so what, now we have something that is called a startle reflex labeled as kong jin?
I read many things posted by D_glenn, that tend to explain much of what I have experienced and felt which is good, with exception that his interpretations do not correspond to what I feel based on my own work and thought .
this thread while interesting seems like its starting to de evolve into looking at things through other theories which while things like physics can explain much of it IMO people so far tend to have ignored simpler things that relate to the same process that physics can explain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_mass
this example IMO really covers a lot of what people see happening in many clips.