Wanderingdragon wrote:If this is your understanding, then clearly you have never gotten past your hands.
mrtoes wrote:have hand speed without it being really connected to the body though.
RobP2 wrote:Heresy I know but you don't need "full body connection" for a good punch. Placement, angle, timing and selective tension will do the job
KEND wrote:I think we must first consider why we would need 3 fast punches.
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I noticed he three punch is often used in WuShu, again to impress since the strikes always looked weak and overextended.
Again the benefits of fast training are considerable in terms of balance, stepping, etc, lets not get sidetracked into the 'fast punching' phenomena
KEND wrote:why we would need 3 fast punches?
mrtoes wrote:have hand speed without it being really connected to the body though.
D_Glenn wrote:If someone is capable or has taken the proper time to learn how to use the Zhedie and Zhuanhuan movements to power all strikes then striking into the air is and never will be a problem.
The whole body becomes like fine machined gears that interlock so precisely that there is no gaps between the teeth. One gear moves, all gears move. One gear stops, all gears stop. Movement without momentum.
You guys have totally missed the boat. I almost feel sorry for you guys.
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Shooter wrote:Gears need 'gaps' aka, ...
kenneth fish wrote:Overlord:
Yes, Master Zhang taught speed drills for both Bagua and XIngyi (as I mentioned above, he said the single palm change movement should be "as if touching a hot stove"). I started training with Master Zhang in the early 1970's, a couple of years before he passed away (I was back in the States for a few months when he passed away, so I was not there at the end nor was I able to make it back for the funeral). I continued to learn from his wife, Hsu Baomei, from late 1975 onward (it may have been early 1976, but I recall it was before the Chinese New Year). I last trained with her in 1983.
As far as performing the forms (which I am guessing is what you are asking) - the five element linked form (solo and paired) and other paired work were to be done at full throttle once one was ready. San Shoupao (a two person moving step speed drill that is seen in both Xingyi and Tongbei) was an important exercise done as fast as you could possibly move.
I see that you do Ma Xianda's Tongbei - I would imagine that there are similar drills in his curriculum.
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