Chris McKinley wrote:I'd like to thank everyone who has posted on this thread for their thoughtful contributions. Further, what I'd really like to thank you all for is the fact that this thread, to me, represents what a martial arts forum on the internet ought to be about: the respectful, informative exchange of both personal views and specific information in a civil but friendly manner.
Some of us have been around so long that everybody knows how we do things and that some of those things are different than what others might be doing. Rather than banging our heads in a Hundred Years Flame War over orthodoxy, it's nice to see that we can instead share information among those interested, and that those who are not simply and politely ignored the thread. Thanks again, guys.
Chris McKinley wrote: how many of you have augmented your neijia training with some form of grappling art for standing and/or ground grappling situations?
Chris McKinley wrote: Among those who have, how many have altered their grappling art's techniques to reflect more neijia principles?
What changes have you made?
Chris McKinley wrote:neijia boxer,
RE: " I keep arts separate.". For purposes of initial learning and/or isolated practice of specific ideas, that is a good idea. However, for purposes of ultimately being able to use all of what you've trained to save your life some day, there is no alternative but that you have to integrate the training at some point. Remember, as I have pointed out many times on EF before, there is no such thing as a martial art. They are all abstract labels for specific sets of human physical behavior. All that you will ever learn in any martial arts class, no matter how many you study, is just different patterns of physical behavior and movement.
In a real self-defense situation, all the abstractions and labels evaporate. There is only the reality of physical behavior and movement. There are no convenient compartmentalizations available. It is well-documented that, under duress, if you do not freeze or flee, you will respond how you have trained to respond. If you have trained conflicting patterns of behavior for use under duress, you will typically fall back to the freeze response due to hesitation. Since the environmental stimuli that let you know when it's "time" to do neijia vs. when it's "time" to work your ground game can become hopelessly blurred in a real violent assault, it's quite possible that, unless you have trained to integrate both patterns into a larger single pattern, you will experience this internal conflict and hesitation if you are ever assaulted for real.
I'm not telling you what to do here....it's your training. I don't own it; you do. I'm just throwing out a different angle on it that you might not have considered. I just want to keep the good guys safe.
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