Rabbit wrote:The picture shows the sort of thing you might see in any aikido class. It might well 'feel different' when Dan does it , but that's the point. Dan mercilessly slates virtually everyone else showing this kind of thing, never offering clips of himself. When he does, it looks exactly the same (but you have to feel it). Then he said 'that's not what I do anyway'
It's amusing to watch how it seems completely impossible for you to even take into account the simple fact that many people who post here and comment on these clips and photos, who have actually been there, in person, on more than one occasion, might actually be telling you the truth about what is/was happening there, and what Dan's work is like... And that somehow they (we) are all either collectively lying, or are all completely delusional
despite all of our collective MA (and life) experience, age, etc. Not one person, not two -- by now you've heard from probably more than 10.
Truly fascinating.
windwalker wrote:It's amusing to watch how it seems completely impossible for you to even take into account the simple fact that many people who post here and comment on these clips and photos, who have actually been there, in person, on more than one occasion, might actually be telling you the truth about what is/was happening there, and what Dan's work is like... And that somehow they (we) are all either collectively lying, or are all completely delusional
Which is the same argument that you and the others use when what is posted, clips, pics or what ever garnners the same responses along with the same questions.despite all of our collective MA (and life) experience, age, etc. Not one person, not two -- by now you've heard from probably more than 10.
Truly fascinating.
Yes it is fascinating in that those who’ve had more or experiences that apparently
you and the others have not only point out the obvious.
It looks the same
can you explain what was going on in the clip shown?
willie wrote: if your talking about the other clip with the woo woo of the guy writhing in pain over nothing at all, well that's simple, Total Bullshit.
But if your thinking that the guy in question doesn't have the skills to bring harm to someone, your wrong.
why someone engages in total bullshit, i have no idea. Why waste your thoughts on such matters?
Rabbit wrote:Ok, interesting, so what is the difference exactly, in simple terms?
This whole thing of, it all looks the same but only a tiny few get it is very unhelpful. Let's have, say a couple of exercises and an explanation. If it's 'secret' or only for student, well then.... Pah
Yugen wrote:Rabbit wrote:Ok, interesting, so what is the difference exactly, in simple terms?
This whole thing of, it all looks the same but only a tiny few get it is very unhelpful. Let's have, say a couple of exercises and an explanation. If it's 'secret' or only for student, well then.... Pah
The picture could be showing components of a couple exercises:
winding of tissue - the bones are kept in place but the tissue of legs are being wound in connection out to the hands. The people in the picture can feel significant spiraling movement of tissue up and down the legs, even down to the ankles. The goal is to loosen and connect tissue even when standing and can be accelerated to facilitate in power generation out to the hands. we're not talking muscle flexing either.
spiraling - using femoral head rotation to open and close the kua the spiraling of the tissue is amplified. Using the leg bows properly. This movement then amplifies the loosened connected tissue movement paths.
other things - the people feeling may be feeling front and back of the legs. The femoral head rotation creates an equal yin/yang rotation and the people will feel their hands being evenly pulled around the leg if they're holding front and back.
Intent is part of it too. I don't know anyone in Aikido who has done this or can demonstrate it, but I'm not an Aikido guy either.
Patrick wrote:I already have watched this video, where he says where he learned. But yet he is constantly saying his method is different. But he cannot say whats different.
Yes, I already know... I am a nobody and he is not obligated to tell nobodies on the internet anything.
I do not even care if he has really unusual skill. It is personally pointless to me, when the method is not possible to put into words.
Just because I read on an Olympic athletes training method, does not make me an Olympic level athlete either, but still
the method is understandable and quantifiable.
I do not even care if he has really unusual skill. It is personally pointless to me, when the method is not possible to put into words.
Just because I read on an Olympic athletes training method, does not make me an Olympic level athlete either, but still
the method is understandable and quantifiable.
AlexF wrote:
The arguments always seem to be had by parties that don't have hands on experience.
Of course, the other argument is that we have all been converted and willingly throw ourselves, tank, like looking stupid writhing around in pretend pain blah blah
I would have thought though, the same experience had by over 1,000 would say something?
t's amusing to watch how it seems completely impossible for you to even take into account the simple fact that many people who post here and comment on these clips and photos, who have actually been there, in person, on more than one occasion, might actually be telling you the truth about what is/was happening there, and what Dan's work is like... And that somehow they (we) are all either collectively lying, or are all completely delusional
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