does Taiji have hip throw
Steve James wrote:does Taiji have hip throw
Good question. Maybe we could ask whether there's a specific form that can be used as a hip throw.
Steve James wrote:Maybe we could ask whether there's a specific form that can be used as a hip throw.
Bao wrote: Some of them use "brush knee" as an excuse.
Steve James wrote:does Chang tcc have a hip throw?
Steve James wrote:How would you incorporate different throws into your tcc?
johnwang wrote:Which taiji move do you drop your head to touch your knee? I don't think there is such move in all Taiji forms..
. Yang Pan-hou told Wang Jiao-Yu that if he could put his chin to his toe in the chin-to-toe exercise within 100 days, he would teach Wang Jiao-Yu. And succeed Jiao-Yu did. Since Wang Jiao-Yu was a Han, Yang Pan-hou took Wang Jiao-yu as his student and trained him in the secret Guang Ping style, and made him promise not to teach this art as long as the dynasty was in power.
Once while fishing at a lake, two other martial artists hoped to push Yang in the water and ruin his reputation. Yang, sensing the attacker's intention, arched his chest, rounded his back, and executed the High Pat on Horse technique. As his back arched and head bowed, the two attackers were bounced into the water simultaneously. He then said to them that he would be easy on them today; but if they were on the ground, he would have punished them more severely. The two attackers quickly swam away.
windwalker wrote: the chin-to-toe exercise ...
You may have heard that gongfu styles can also be divided into "closed" and "open" systems, as well as "narrow" and "wide" systems.
A "narrow" system is one that specifies a particular response for a particular attack. So for every possible attack, there is a specific response. And because there are a great many possible attacks, there are also a great may specifc techniques to counter them. With "narrow" systems, you have A LOT of techniques -- like the proverbial 108 hand techniques, for instance. A "wide" system has much fewer techniques, but looks to the changes possible for each of them. So for instance, you might only have 5 or 6 basic punches... but many "changes" associated with those punches. See also Baqua, with it's emphasis on changes.
The way to learn how to use a wide system (like White Crane) is then to gain experience with using the limited number of techniques you have available, in a wide assortment of attacks. In other words, you have to use the techniques in sparring... a lot of sparing... so you can learn how a single punch can be used against multiple attack patterns.
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windwalker wrote:johnwang wrote:Which taiji move do you drop your head to touch your knee? I don't think there is such move in all Taiji forms... Yang Pan-hou told Wang Jiao-Yu that if he could put his chin to his toe in the chin-to-toe exercise within 100 days, he would teach Wang Jiao-Yu. And succeed Jiao-Yu did. Since Wang Jiao-Yu was a Han, Yang Pan-hou took Wang Jiao-yu as his student and trained him in the secret Guang Ping style, and made him promise not to teach this art as long as the dynasty was in power.
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There may not be a movement directly, the ability was their depending on style and teacher.
If one views throwing as something to practice, many of the movements as I view them can be mapped into a throw if needed.
It might be better to discus how taiji throws are different if they are and why this is so if it is.Once while fishing at a lake, two other martial artists hoped to push Yang in the water and ruin his reputation. Yang, sensing the attacker's intention, arched his chest, rounded his back, and executed the High Pat on Horse technique. As his back arched and head bowed, the two attackers were bounced into the water simultaneously. He then said to them that he would be easy on them today; but if they were on the ground, he would have punished them more severely. The two attackers quickly swam away.
everything wrote:Taijiquan is probably not interesting/unique for having the largest catalog of moves,...
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