Bao wrote:I understand your points. But I still think that there is something about attention, focus and awareness. Maybe a person who has sparred a lot and has entered many competitions would have a different trained awareness than the common thug on the street?
Like these ones are other examples. When you focus strongly on one thing, other things happening outside your direct path of vision, or central vision. Some people are more easily fooled than others. Now you probably wont be fooled at all, but anyway...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahg6qcgoay4
So what this means is that it is possible to attract attention to a certain movement, object etc and make a person less aware of what happens outside the central vision. If things happens very fast, a certain type of move might be enough to draw the attention so you can do something without the person even notice what's happening. This is what professional illusionists use all of the time. A person who understand what a magician do will see what's happening. Others who have no clue will be easily fooled.
Bao wrote:So the question is how can we take advantage of this weakness for fighting strategy?
dspyrido wrote:
But you would think that after reading this thread it looks like the answer is go ask a boxer.
Bao wrote:So the question is how can we take advantage of this weakness for fighting strategy?
windwalker wrote:dspyrido wrote:
But you would think that after reading this thread it looks like the answer is go ask a boxer.
not really, just ask people who've fought, fight a lot....or a practice thats geared towards
fighting. All will or should be able to address the question. Most never see what they get hit with.
marvin8 wrote:
Not really?
Professional boxers. MMA, Muay Thai, etc., "fight a lot" and fight in "a practice thats geared towards fighting." Some "never see what they get hit with."
There are fights and analysis, on video, of some of the greatest fighters of all time in history and present, along with their trainers. They "will or should be able to address the question."
dspyrido wrote:
Do the eyes deceive? Only if they are untrained & luckily many are which creates a wonderful opportunity to pepper anyone not doing something about this weakness.
But you would think that after reading this thread it looks like the answer is go ask a boxer.
marvin8 wrote:windwalker wrote:dspyrido wrote:
But you would think that after reading this thread it looks like the answer is go ask a boxer.
not really, just ask people who've fought, fight a lot....or a practice thats geared towards
fighting. All will or should be able to address the question. Most never see what they get hit with.
Not really?
Professional boxers. MMA, Muay Thai, etc., "fight a lot" and fight in "a practice thats geared towards fighting." Some "never see what they get hit with."
There are fights and analysis, on video, of some of the greatest fighters of all time in history and present, along with their trainers. They "will or should be able to address the question."
windwalker wrote:re read it.
windwalker wrote:Are you one of the greatest fighters of all time, whats your point.
marvin8 wrote:There are fights and analysis, on video, of some of the greatest fighters of all time in history and present, along with their trainers. They "will or should be able to address the question."
windwalker wrote:Boxers and other arts those professional as you say have their answers and address them according to their requirements just as CMA did, and does of those who train it.
windwalker wrote:dspyrido wrote:
Do the eyes deceive? Only if they are untrained & luckily many are which creates a wonderful opportunity to pepper anyone not doing something about this weakness.
But you would think that after reading this thread it looks like the answer is go ask a boxer.
agree
anyone who is training for usage in CMA would also get some of the training
and understanding of this. Either through training it directly or as you mentioned finding out the hard way....
Those training in traditional CMA shouldn't have to ask a boxer, they should know already..One might
wonder what they'er training is for if they do not.
But you would think that after reading this thread it looks like the answer is go ask a boxer.
windwalker wrote:dspyrido wrote:
Do the eyes deceive? Only if they are untrained & luckily many are which creates a wonderful opportunity to pepper anyone not doing something about this weakness.
But you would think that after reading this thread it looks like the answer is go ask a boxer.
agree
anyone who is training for usage in CMA would also get some of the training
and understanding of this. Either through training it directly or as you mentioned finding out the hard way....
Those training in traditional CMA shouldn't have to ask a boxer, they should know already..One might
wonder what they'er training is for if they do not.
windwalker wrote:Do you have any drills that address this?
Do you know how to de-train the blink reflex, is it a good thing to do ?
CMA at least traditional CMA training addresses this
marvin8 wrote:
Can you explain how "CMA training addresses this?"
windwalker wrote:marvin8 wrote:
Can you explain how "CMA training addresses this?"
Find a teacher who teaches traditional CMA and you will know.
windwalker wrote:Are you one of the greatest fighters of all time, whats your point.
Do you have any drills that address this?
Do you know how to de-train the blink reflex, is it a good thing to do ?
CMA at least traditional CMA training addresses this
marvin8 wrote:There was no mention of CMA in the OP. The discussion was in general on peripheral vision and magic/illusion. No one suggested, "CMA should have to ask a boxer."
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