His explanations seem kind of confused wrapped in his own usage of the Chinese words he uses to explain it.
He would be better served and those he works with would understand things quicker if he explained it using basic
physics.
The trend I've observed among many older traditional teachers now a days is to try to use physics to explain what they do
when ever possible making it is more accessible to those who are not culturally attuned to concepts like "qi" or "song" .
middleway wrote:
The problem with this approach is he would have to learn Physics first. There is a trend in the internal arts to use 'physics' terms that bare no relation to how they are used by actual physists. In such cases it is just further confusion.
thanks.
I've been lucky in that some of those I worked with were PHD level physicist.
Whats shown in the OP clip should be quiet easy for most here to do
I would think...
middleway wrote:Agreed you are very lucky, but i am sure you can appreciate, most people are not and do not have access to a PHD level physicist!
But they do have access to their own inquiring minds. Once some one learns to think out side the box so to speak.
charles wrote:While the teacher had some skills, I never met a single student of his who had anything beyond beginner-level skills, but he had a large following of dedicated students who all thought that they were learning The Real Stuff. Twenty years later, the students are still beginners.
middleway wrote:But they do have access to their own inquiring minds. Once some one learns to think out side the box so to speak.
well yes. And i am a huge fan of physics, it fascinates me. However, It is my expeience that too many people attribute the spookyness of Quantum Mechanics to their Internal Arts and end up peddling non sensical crap because they misunderstand the experiments and the findings.
A little knowledge can go a long way ... but it can also send people a long way off track. If we are talking basic mechanical concepts like momentum, rotation etc then of course these are a bit more simple to grasp.
cheers.
everything wrote:...can quickly go too far in the other direction. "sink qi to dantian" isn't something that "physics" understanding really helps in any case.
wayne hansen wrote:Most of those who quote physics do it in a halfarsed way...
Anyone who can't explain it in simple terms it is because they don't understand it
Misdirection is for commercial gain
charles wrote: Sometimes, however, it is simply due to one not having the ability to present things in simple terms. The ability to present complex things in simple terms is not a skill that many have.
oragami_itto wrote:middleway wrote:But they do have access to their own inquiring minds. Once some one learns to think out side the box so to speak.
well yes. And i am a huge fan of physics, it fascinates me. However, It is my expeience that too many people attribute the spookyness of Quantum Mechanics to their Internal Arts and end up peddling non sensical crap because they misunderstand the experiments and the findings.
A little knowledge can go a long way ... but it can also send people a long way off track. If we are talking basic mechanical concepts like momentum, rotation etc then of course these are a bit more simple to grasp.
cheers.
It doesn't really help when the most educated minds with skills enough to write on the subject didn't understand basic physics.
Cheng Man Ching for example thought that an arrow would accelerate after it left contact with the bowstring.
For quite a few years, I have been reading and re-reading Cheng Tzu’s Thirteen Treatises,1 written by my first T’ai-Chi teacher, Cheng Man-ch’ing (1900–1975). I consider most of this book to be very clear and filled with valuable information. However, even though my Ph.D. is in physics, I found Treatise 7, entitled “Strength and Physics,” very hard to understand.
This essay ends with Prof. Cheng saying, “This treatise reveals the secret of many generations of T’ai Chi Ch’uan masters. I hope the practitioner will pay special attention to this!” He evidently considered this essay, which deals in part with neutralization, to be very important and chose to use physics as the main expository tool.
The arrow accelerates producing a
force equal to or greater than the original force. For
example, if the impelling force is one hundred pounds,
the velocity can accelerate to a force of two hundred
pounds. We achieve an impelling force of two hundred
pounds by applying the relation: Force times Speed
equals Energy. In physics we have the formula: Force x
Speed x Time = Energy.6
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